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> ventilation is probably good I'm not clear on what ventilation being "probably good" means in the context of reducing SARS-Cov-2 exposure to a safe level. Wh

> ventilation is probably good I'm not clear on what ventilation being "probably good" means in the context of reducing SARS-Cov-2 exposure to a safe level. What if the air is recirculated and the filters don't capture enough of the virus?

xyzzyz 6y ago
Nobody knows anything for certain. We do not even have good data on mask effectiveness. The basis of all the restrictions is already a gut feeling/whim of the governors, not any concrete scientific data about what works and what doesn’t. Asking whether air conditioning system is good enough doesn’t make sense if we don’t even know what’s good enough. Nobody is doing any studies in that direction anyway, so we’ll never know. I don’t know if lockdowns and restrictions make any practical difference or not, but people affected are definitely justified in complaining about large degree of arbitrariness in all of it. For example, NYC is still running subway and never stopped through all of it. Sure, people are relying on it to get places in New York, but so is everyone else in this country relying on their job to make a living, and yet many of their jobs were banned just like that.
- dominotw 6y ago
  New infections in NY i heard are majority 76% from ppl staying indoors. Not sure how are they are getting it, from recirculated air in apt complexes?
  - amalter 6y ago
    Last measured antigen rate in NYC was north of 20%. My bet is almost all “essential” workers have been exposed and that part of the “herd” is immune. Who does that leave but everyone else, who are still shopping, going for walks, exercising, doing laundry in communal facilities and all the other minutiae of life that cannot be paused. I’ve seen this comment a few times and don’t see the mystery. The virus has saturated the mobile and now is finding vectors into the less mobile. This is a feature, not a bug, since the pickup rate is hopefully under the critical care capabilities.
    - dominotw 6y ago
      > I’ve seen this comment a few times and don’t see the mystery. Well, its not clear to me what "people who are staying indoors" means. I am exclusively inside my apt for last 8 weeks and have groceries delivered and workout on my bike trainer/zwift indoors. I feel like there should be some distinction between, 1. mostly staying indoors 2. exclusively staying indoors. If second group of people are getting it, then yea its mysterious.
  - xyzzyz 6y ago
    If an average person lives with two other people, it’s safe to assume that something between half and two thirds of all infections will be from people staying indoors, because people getting out will easily infect other people in their household.

xyzzyz 6y ago

Nobody knows anything for certain. We do not even have good data on mask effectiveness. The basis of all the restrictions is already a gut feeling/whim of the governors, not any concrete scientific data about what works and what doesn’t. Asking whether air conditioning system is good enough doesn’t make sense if we don’t even know what’s good enough. Nobody is doing any studies in that direction anyway, so we’ll never know. I don’t know if lockdowns and restrictions make any practical difference or not, but people affected are definitely justified in complaining about large degree of arbitrariness in all of it. For example, NYC is still running subway and never stopped through all of it. Sure, people are relying on it to get places in New York, but so is everyone else in this country relying on their job to make a living, and yet many of their jobs were banned just like that.

dominotw 6y ago
New infections in NY i heard are majority 76% from ppl staying indoors. Not sure how are they are getting it, from recirculated air in apt complexes?
- amalter 6y ago
  Last measured antigen rate in NYC was north of 20%. My bet is almost all “essential” workers have been exposed and that part of the “herd” is immune. Who does that leave but everyone else, who are still shopping, going for walks, exercising, doing laundry in communal facilities and all the other minutiae of life that cannot be paused. I’ve seen this comment a few times and don’t see the mystery. The virus has saturated the mobile and now is finding vectors into the less mobile. This is a feature, not a bug, since the pickup rate is hopefully under the critical care capabilities.
  - dominotw 6y ago
    > I’ve seen this comment a few times and don’t see the mystery. Well, its not clear to me what "people who are staying indoors" means. I am exclusively inside my apt for last 8 weeks and have groceries delivered and workout on my bike trainer/zwift indoors. I feel like there should be some distinction between, 1. mostly staying indoors 2. exclusively staying indoors. If second group of people are getting it, then yea its mysterious.
- xyzzyz 6y ago
  If an average person lives with two other people, it’s safe to assume that something between half and two thirds of all infections will be from people staying indoors, because people getting out will easily infect other people in their household.