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>pontificate about this on an internet forum it's not about "on an internet forum" it's in general - why don't we all reserve judgement more? we all know the a

>pontificate about this on an internet forum it's not about "on an internet forum" it's in general - why don't we all reserve judgement more? we all know the answer of course: because we're arrogant and believe that our abilities to write software translate into abilities to do xyz. >Intellectual curiosity intellectual curiosity is much much more than reading a couple of online articles and making declarations

sojournerc 6y ago
> GP comment is relevant and thought provoking. Isn't that enough?
- throwlaplace 6y ago
  there's nothing in the least bit thought provoking about it because it have any substance only claims (vague allusion to "memes" and undefined "Predictive Processing"). i wonder why that is? might it be because GP admits they aren't actually expert enough to substantiate any of the claims? and that's my point. i see claims all the time from people not entitled to make claims. i see substance very rarely. why? because claims are easy.
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    Every human being is entitled to make claims. Some claims have more merit and some have less. You can choose to engage or not based on the merit of their argument.
    - throwlaplace 6y ago
      >Every human being is entitled to make claims God this is so tired. No one is questioning anyone's right to free speech. What I'm questioning is the value of that speech and the humility involved in making claims. That's it.
      - jotm 6y ago
        That leads nowhere. Everyone's sharing their opinions, the only solutions are to limit their freedoms or stop reading what they write.
      - s1artibartfast 6y ago
        I guess I’m not clear what you are looking to achieve. Were you hoping the op would stop providing amateur opinions online?
      - afarrell 6y ago
        > humility This is an important value. Please re-read my phrasing: - "I'd naively think" - "I don't see" - "I am skeptical" I am using words of uncertainty and lack-of-knowledge. The only claim I make with a certainty is "I have found <link> useful for addressing <personal experience>".
bawolff 6y ago
I'm not sure what you're doing on this site if not to listen to randoms talk. Even on other topics, its not like the various language fanboys that want to rewrite every program in $language are actual experts. I would also add rejecting a comment that doesnt depend on credentials out of hands due to lack of credentials is a form of the genetic fallacy

sojournerc 6y ago

> GP comment is relevant and thought provoking. Isn't that enough?

throwlaplace 6y ago
there's nothing in the least bit thought provoking about it because it have any substance only claims (vague allusion to "memes" and undefined "Predictive Processing"). i wonder why that is? might it be because GP admits they aren't actually expert enough to substantiate any of the claims? and that's my point. i see claims all the time from people not entitled to make claims. i see substance very rarely. why? because claims are easy.
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  Every human being is entitled to make claims. Some claims have more merit and some have less. You can choose to engage or not based on the merit of their argument.
  - throwlaplace 6y ago
    >Every human being is entitled to make claims God this is so tired. No one is questioning anyone's right to free speech. What I'm questioning is the value of that speech and the humility involved in making claims. That's it.
    - jotm 6y ago
      That leads nowhere. Everyone's sharing their opinions, the only solutions are to limit their freedoms or stop reading what they write.
    - s1artibartfast 6y ago
      I guess I’m not clear what you are looking to achieve. Were you hoping the op would stop providing amateur opinions online?
    - afarrell 6y ago
      > humility This is an important value. Please re-read my phrasing: - "I'd naively think" - "I don't see" - "I am skeptical" I am using words of uncertainty and lack-of-knowledge. The only claim I make with a certainty is "I have found <link> useful for addressing <personal experience>".

bawolff 6y ago

I'm not sure what you're doing on this site if not to listen to randoms talk. Even on other topics, its not like the various language fanboys that want to rewrite every program in $language are actual experts. I would also add rejecting a comment that doesnt depend on credentials out of hands due to lack of credentials is a form of the genetic fallacy