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> It shocks me to Silicon Valley icons like Elon Musk, Paul Graham, and Justin Kan pushing to reopen... In fairness, they might be pushing to reopen to make th

> It shocks me to Silicon Valley icons like Elon Musk, Paul Graham, and Justin Kan pushing to reopen... In fairness, they might be pushing to reopen to make the governments do better than rely on lockdown indefinitely. After all, necessity necessitates invention. One way to reopen and still be on top of the epidemic is accurate, fast, and cheap testing [0] at scale, so that, not only could people be tested repeatedly to curb the spread but also get a good overall data on the spread itself. Contact tracing, social distancing, and quarantine remains essential till a vaccine, or a prophylactic / therapeutic treatment is discovered. [0] Grant Sanderson, Simulating an Epidemic, https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gxAaO2rsdIs https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gxAaO2rsdIs

Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
Have you been tested?[1] I'd rather not get tested multiple times a month for months on end, thanks. 1.https://youtu.be/ssApeG-FBCU?t=1m37s https://youtu.be/ssApeG-FBCU?t=1m37s
- abdulhaq 7y ago
  I've had many nose and throat swabs over the years, it's nothing
  - jschwartzi 7y ago
    Yes if that’s what it takes I’ll do it. The US eradicated Polio by mandating a painful vaccination. We have a long history of public health improvements by collective action. The only difference is that many people now assume bad faith on the part of the government despite the overwhelming majority of us complying with government orders.
- ignoramous 7y ago
  See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22857384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22857384
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
    The efficacies are worlds apart.
afarrell 7y ago
> necessity necessitates invention No, it merely prompts it. If you toss an 8-year-old into the deep end of a pool, does it force him to swim? No. Drowning is an option.
- fooker 7y ago
  >does it force him to swim? This is more or less how how most animals learn to swim or how birds learn to fly.
  - serf 7y ago
    >This is more or less how how most animals learn to swim or how birds learn to fly. yeah, and they have the losses to show for it. some birds have losses of up to 41% due to falls and premature flight/parental following.[0] [0]: https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/5389/SCtZ-0009-Hi_res.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/5389/SCtZ-0...
    - KarlKemp 7y ago
      This is the most absurd (in the best possible sense) use of sources to win an argument I’ve seen in a while!
    - fooker 7y ago
      Is there an alternative which works better for birds?
  - catalogia 7y ago
    For some reason, this works better for younger children than older children.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago

Have you been tested?[1] I'd rather not get tested multiple times a month for months on end, thanks. 1.https://youtu.be/ssApeG-FBCU?t=1m37s https://youtu.be/ssApeG-FBCU?t=1m37s

abdulhaq 7y ago
I've had many nose and throat swabs over the years, it's nothing
- jschwartzi 7y ago
  Yes if that’s what it takes I’ll do it. The US eradicated Polio by mandating a painful vaccination. We have a long history of public health improvements by collective action. The only difference is that many people now assume bad faith on the part of the government despite the overwhelming majority of us complying with government orders.
ignoramous 7y ago
See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22857384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22857384
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y ago
  The efficacies are worlds apart.

afarrell 7y ago

> necessity necessitates invention No, it merely prompts it. If you toss an 8-year-old into the deep end of a pool, does it force him to swim? No. Drowning is an option.

fooker 7y ago
>does it force him to swim? This is more or less how how most animals learn to swim or how birds learn to fly.
- serf 7y ago
  >This is more or less how how most animals learn to swim or how birds learn to fly. yeah, and they have the losses to show for it. some birds have losses of up to 41% due to falls and premature flight/parental following.[0] [0]: https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/5389/SCtZ-0009-Hi_res.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/5389/SCtZ-0...
  - KarlKemp 7y ago
    This is the most absurd (in the best possible sense) use of sources to win an argument I’ve seen in a while!
  - fooker 7y ago
    Is there an alternative which works better for birds?
- catalogia 7y ago
  For some reason, this works better for younger children than older children.