This discussion is almost textbook flamebait. Indeed the very topic itself was all about flame. It's impossible, I think, to be able to discuss it rationally wi

This discussion is almost textbook flamebait. Indeed the very topic itself was all about flame. It's impossible, I think, to be able to discuss it rationally without falling into our usual traps. Actually for many people to even consider that it is possible to discuss it rationally would be problematic and borderline offensive, for others, the lack of a rational discussion is itself proof of a big problem. That's my observation of these threads - it's a curious game - the only winning move, Professor Falcon, is not to play. How about a nice game of Chess?