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The greatest lie of open source is that open source contributors are morally superior to testers, donators and people who take their time to submit detailed iss

by _plu5 6y ago

The greatest lie of open source is that open source contributors are morally superior to testers, donators and people who take their time to submit detailed issue reports. As a matter of fact, one of the guys in that Twitter thread, Olivier Tassinari - a team member for the Material UI react component kit, acted like he was some kind of royalty when he compared his GitHub contribution history with mine after a disagreement about putting ads in NPM logs. I can't stand arrogant, entitled assholes like that, especially when I'm supporting everybody by regularly donating money to much, much larger open source projects that everybody uses.

Chyzwar 6y ago
They are not morally superior to others. They just have more ownership over open source projects. They can decide what project roadmap is, they can spam your terminal with ads[1] and they can even remove or abandon the project. Only people that feel that they are morally superior would go to project issue tracker or public forum and tell maintainer what they can do with their own project. If you do not like it, you can stop using material-ui. At least stop naming people assholes just because they disagree with you. Olivier Tassinari created one of the highest quality react UI toolkit used literally by everybody. My interactions with him on issue tracker were always positive. [1] https://github.com/npm/policies/blob/master/open-source-terms.md https://github.com/npm/policies/blob/master/open-source-term...
- wayneftw 6y ago
  Thank you for proving my point. See, here you are automatically assuming that I was "telling a maintainer what they can do with their own project" when that wasn't the case at all. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even talking about Material UI when I posted a comment on one of their issues. I was addressing another user about their ads in NPM. I'm also not calling someone an asshole for disagreeing with me - I'm calling them an asshole for acting like they're better than you and me and that "contributing code to open source is the only way to support open source". (Did you miss the part where I said he acted like not contributing to any large open source projects made me less of person? Because that's exactly what happened. If you don't believe me then that's probably because you have a personal bias. There's absolutely no reason for me to lie and it's not like I go around talking about this all the time - it's precisely on topic and I happened to see Asshole Tassinari's name in the Twitter thread...) It'a a lie that code-only contributors are better than others and one that is swallowed hook and sinker by many, many open source maintainers. People who believe it are just protecting their fragile egos. > They can decide what project roadmap is, they can spam your terminal with ads[1] and they can even remove or abandon the project. Incorrect. I have since blocked all ads in NPM logs (and then NPM subsequently banned them) thank you very much :) I'll never see another one. And you can't take back an open source project once it's been released in the wild. But thanks for all the free work! I'll continue to use it for as long as I wish.
  - Chyzwar 6y ago
    > See, here you are automatically assuming that I was "telling a maintainer what they can do with their own project" when that wasn't the case at all. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even talking about Material UI when I posted a comment on one of their issues. I was addressing another user about their ads in NPM. See, I am not naming you asshole. > I'm also not calling someone an asshole for disagreeing with me - I'm calling them an asshole for acting like they're better than you and me and that "contributing code to open source is the only way to support open source". (Did you miss the part where I said he acted like not contributing to any large open source projects made me less of person? Because that's exactly what happened. If you don't believe me then that's probably because you have a personal bias. There's absolutely no reason for me to lie and it's not like I go around talking about this all the time - it's precisely on topic and I happened to see Asshole Tassinari's name in the Twitter thread...) Provide citation or it never happened. > Incorrect. I have since blocked all ads in NPM logs (and then NPM subsequently banned them) thank you very much :) I'll never see another one. And you can't take back an open source project once it's been released in the wild. But thanks for all the free work! I'll continue to use it for as long as I wish. You are mistaken, read linked policy. There is a number of cases where ads are permitted. You can decide to block ads but many projects can ask for funding in postinstall.
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by _plu5 6y ago

Chyzwar 6y ago

They are not morally superior to others. They just have more ownership over open source projects. They can decide what project roadmap is, they can spam your terminal with ads[1] and they can even remove or abandon the project. Only people that feel that they are morally superior would go to project issue tracker or public forum and tell maintainer what they can do with their own project. If you do not like it, you can stop using material-ui. At least stop naming people assholes just because they disagree with you. Olivier Tassinari created one of the highest quality react UI toolkit used literally by everybody. My interactions with him on issue tracker were always positive. [1] https://github.com/npm/policies/blob/master/open-source-terms.md https://github.com/npm/policies/blob/master/open-source-term...

wayneftw 6y ago
Thank you for proving my point. See, here you are automatically assuming that I was "telling a maintainer what they can do with their own project" when that wasn't the case at all. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even talking about Material UI when I posted a comment on one of their issues. I was addressing another user about their ads in NPM. I'm also not calling someone an asshole for disagreeing with me - I'm calling them an asshole for acting like they're better than you and me and that "contributing code to open source is the only way to support open source". (Did you miss the part where I said he acted like not contributing to any large open source projects made me less of person? Because that's exactly what happened. If you don't believe me then that's probably because you have a personal bias. There's absolutely no reason for me to lie and it's not like I go around talking about this all the time - it's precisely on topic and I happened to see Asshole Tassinari's name in the Twitter thread...) It'a a lie that code-only contributors are better than others and one that is swallowed hook and sinker by many, many open source maintainers. People who believe it are just protecting their fragile egos. > They can decide what project roadmap is, they can spam your terminal with ads[1] and they can even remove or abandon the project. Incorrect. I have since blocked all ads in NPM logs (and then NPM subsequently banned them) thank you very much :) I'll never see another one. And you can't take back an open source project once it's been released in the wild. But thanks for all the free work! I'll continue to use it for as long as I wish.
- Chyzwar 6y ago
  > See, here you are automatically assuming that I was "telling a maintainer what they can do with their own project" when that wasn't the case at all. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even talking about Material UI when I posted a comment on one of their issues. I was addressing another user about their ads in NPM. See, I am not naming you asshole. > I'm also not calling someone an asshole for disagreeing with me - I'm calling them an asshole for acting like they're better than you and me and that "contributing code to open source is the only way to support open source". (Did you miss the part where I said he acted like not contributing to any large open source projects made me less of person? Because that's exactly what happened. If you don't believe me then that's probably because you have a personal bias. There's absolutely no reason for me to lie and it's not like I go around talking about this all the time - it's precisely on topic and I happened to see Asshole Tassinari's name in the Twitter thread...) Provide citation or it never happened. > Incorrect. I have since blocked all ads in NPM logs (and then NPM subsequently banned them) thank you very much :) I'll never see another one. And you can't take back an open source project once it's been released in the wild. But thanks for all the free work! I'll continue to use it for as long as I wish. You are mistaken, read linked policy. There is a number of cases where ads are permitted. You can decide to block ads but many projects can ask for funding in postinstall.
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