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As the risk of getting political, Iran (its leadership) is one of a handful of countries that openly and repeatedly calls for the literal "annihilation" of anot

by asah 7y ago

As the risk of getting political, Iran (its leadership) is one of a handful of countries that openly and repeatedly calls for the literal "annihilation" of another country. https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+statements+annihilation+jews https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+statements+annihilation... https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+statements+death+to+America https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+statements+death+to+Ame...

Gibbon1 7y ago
No one cares about this any more.
hutzlibu 7y ago
Ah, yes. One of the most escalating potential topics there is. So is it already risky, to say, that most statements, "calling for annihiliation" of israel, are not so drastic, when looked upon closer? So, for example the famous quote from former president Ahmadinejad, about wiping israel off the map: " Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion: what he said was that "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time." No state action is envisaged in this lament; it denotes a spiritual wish, whereas the erroneous translation – "wipe Israel off the map" – suggests a military threat. There is a huge chasm between the correct and the incorrect translations. The notion that Iran can "wipe out" U.S.-backed, nuclear-armed Israel is ludicrous." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Isra... That still leaves plenty of other statements, though and support of hamas, etc. who are less diplomatic in their words, but on the other side, you have lots of direct war threats from US and Israel, too, who are indeed nuclear armed. So who started it? Complicated of course. And I don't really have much sympathy for the mullahs, but the iranian people I met, were nice ones. And I doubt collective punishments from the outside, like the ban on space tech, are helping them get rid of the idiots. It just brings them closer together.
- mirimir 7y ago
  Yes, it's complicated. Here's an amusing (albeit ~neutral) summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9-H5C_4UDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9-H5C_4UDU
Udik 7y ago
"Death to" in Persian is just the opposite of "long live", and it means "down with". Annoyed taxi drivers for example say "death to traffic" [1] The American romcom "Down with love" is translated in Persian as "Death to love" [2] [1] https://blog.ricksteves.com/blog/death-to-israel-death-to-traffic/ https://blog.ricksteves.com/blog/death-to-israel-death-to-tr... [2] https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B1%DA%AF_%D8%A8%D8%B1_%D8%B9%D8%B4%D9%82 https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B1%DA%AF_%D8%A8%D8%B...

by asah 7y ago

Gibbon1 7y ago

No one cares about this any more.

hutzlibu 7y ago

Ah, yes. One of the most escalating potential topics there is. So is it already risky, to say, that most statements, "calling for annihiliation" of israel, are not so drastic, when looked upon closer? So, for example the famous quote from former president Ahmadinejad, about wiping israel off the map: " Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion: what he said was that "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time." No state action is envisaged in this lament; it denotes a spiritual wish, whereas the erroneous translation – "wipe Israel off the map" – suggests a military threat. There is a huge chasm between the correct and the incorrect translations. The notion that Iran can "wipe out" U.S.-backed, nuclear-armed Israel is ludicrous." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Isra... That still leaves plenty of other statements, though and support of hamas, etc. who are less diplomatic in their words, but on the other side, you have lots of direct war threats from US and Israel, too, who are indeed nuclear armed. So who started it? Complicated of course. And I don't really have much sympathy for the mullahs, but the iranian people I met, were nice ones. And I doubt collective punishments from the outside, like the ban on space tech, are helping them get rid of the idiots. It just brings them closer together.

mirimir 7y ago
Yes, it's complicated. Here's an amusing (albeit ~neutral) summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9-H5C_4UDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9-H5C_4UDU

Udik 7y ago

"Death to" in Persian is just the opposite of "long live", and it means "down with". Annoyed taxi drivers for example say "death to traffic" [1] The American romcom "Down with love" is translated in Persian as "Death to love" [2] [1] https://blog.ricksteves.com/blog/death-to-israel-death-to-traffic/ https://blog.ricksteves.com/blog/death-to-israel-death-to-tr... [2] https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B1%DA%AF_%D8%A8%D8%B1_%D8%B9%D8%B4%D9%82 https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B1%DA%AF_%D8%A8%D8%B...