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Calling it a "manifesto" is trying to give reader here some bias against it. Like he was some alt-right madman. He wrote a post. Not a manifesto. "There are

Calling it a "manifesto" is trying to give reader here some bias against it. Like he was some alt-right madman. He wrote a post. Not a manifesto. "There are productive ways to have these kinds of conversations" Well obviously there aren't when posting a comment in an internal company forum gets you fired.

magic5227 7y ago
There obviously ARE more productive ways, because most people aren't fired for having discussions at work.
jashmatthews 7y ago
He skipped over classical liberal and very quickly gave interviews to prominent alt-right figures like Stefan Molyneaux.
- hckr_news 7y ago
  He also tweeted during the middle of this, "The KKK is horrible and I don't support them in any way, but can we admit that their internal title names are cool, e.g. 'Grand Wizard'?" So...shrugs
  - FeepingCreature 7y ago
    I mean. He's not wrong.
  - implements 7y ago
    He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum, which if treated as a form of social disability would (or should, IMO) grant him some leeway. If his intent wasn’t sexist then his failure to perfectly negotiate the complex social way those points have to be expressed isn’t a moral failing on his part. Edit: I’d rather posters took the time to argue against rather than downvote. My point is just that ‘socially colourblind’ people probably shouldn’t be punished for lacking perceptual and expressive subtlety. It doesn’t mean they can’t be corrected or educated, of-course.
    - ikeyany 7y ago
      Why shouldn't people get punished for lacking perceptual and expressive subtlety? I doubt you would have a problem with rewarding people for possessing such skills (e.g. well-paid actors, or clever detectives).
    - Udik 7y ago
      > He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum, which if treated as a form of social disability would (or should, IMO) grant him some leeway. This attitude leaves me almost speechless. When someone makes an argument that at least tries to be well reasoned, and people attack him based on misunderstandings and how it makes them feel, maybe the problem is not that he's autistic. Maybe it's those who are offended and refuse to engage in a civilized debate that have some form of disability. It used to be that dispassionate reason was the highest form of discourse (the only one on which it's possible to reach agreements). What happened to that standard, when the responses boil down to "how does it make you feel"?
    - hackissimo123 7y ago
      > He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum That's because he is: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/16/james-damore-google-memo-interview-autism-regrets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/16/james-dam...
  - jack1243star 7y ago
    Can't disagree with that.
  - zozbot234 7y ago
    That's obviously a joke, though. (It's also on Twitter. Everyone acts weird on Twitter.)
  - manigandham 7y ago
    That's called a joke.
- manigandham 7y ago
  He interviewed with Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan. Also who on the left would interview him? That's the issue with claiming that he only talked to one side.
  - jashmatthews 7y ago
    As he said in his interview with Peterson, he declined interviews with any centrist media. He filed an NLRB complaint before posting, hired Charles Johnson (who is a professional conspiracy dude and claims to know where MH370 is) to run PR and made a bee-line directly for maximum exposure with people like Molyneaux. That's a very deliberate choice. He's no martyr of rational thought.
    - alxmp 7y ago
      Where is the centrist media? Mainstream media is a mix of SJW and occasional attacks on corporations as a diversion to hide the actual exploitative system. Also, in what world is Joe Rogan alt-right? He's all over the place politically (as one should be). EDIT: Apparently libertarians are such a great threat to the people who have their snouts in the trough that they have to be labeled "alt-right".
    - reroute1 7y ago
      "Centrist media" kind of took a dump on him... Why would he run to them? Is Joe Rogan not a centrist? He is self proclaimed liberal on most topics, right wing is a silly label
  - uxcolumbo 7y ago
    What makes you think Joe Rogan is alt right? Watching his interviews with various people who are more left leaning doesn't give me the impression that he is alt-right.
    - jashmatthews 7y ago
      He didn’t appear on Rogan until a long time after his first interviews.

magic5227 7y ago

There obviously ARE more productive ways, because most people aren't fired for having discussions at work.

jashmatthews 7y ago

He skipped over classical liberal and very quickly gave interviews to prominent alt-right figures like Stefan Molyneaux.

hckr_news 7y ago
He also tweeted during the middle of this, "The KKK is horrible and I don't support them in any way, but can we admit that their internal title names are cool, e.g. 'Grand Wizard'?" So...shrugs
- FeepingCreature 7y ago
  I mean. He's not wrong.
- implements 7y ago
  He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum, which if treated as a form of social disability would (or should, IMO) grant him some leeway. If his intent wasn’t sexist then his failure to perfectly negotiate the complex social way those points have to be expressed isn’t a moral failing on his part. Edit: I’d rather posters took the time to argue against rather than downvote. My point is just that ‘socially colourblind’ people probably shouldn’t be punished for lacking perceptual and expressive subtlety. It doesn’t mean they can’t be corrected or educated, of-course.
  - ikeyany 7y ago
    Why shouldn't people get punished for lacking perceptual and expressive subtlety? I doubt you would have a problem with rewarding people for possessing such skills (e.g. well-paid actors, or clever detectives).
  - Udik 7y ago
    > He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum, which if treated as a form of social disability would (or should, IMO) grant him some leeway. This attitude leaves me almost speechless. When someone makes an argument that at least tries to be well reasoned, and people attack him based on misunderstandings and how it makes them feel, maybe the problem is not that he's autistic. Maybe it's those who are offended and refuse to engage in a civilized debate that have some form of disability. It used to be that dispassionate reason was the highest form of discourse (the only one on which it's possible to reach agreements). What happened to that standard, when the responses boil down to "how does it make you feel"?
  - hackissimo123 7y ago
    > He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum That's because he is: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/16/james-damore-google-memo-interview-autism-regrets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/16/james-dam...
- jack1243star 7y ago
  Can't disagree with that.
- zozbot234 7y ago
  That's obviously a joke, though. (It's also on Twitter. Everyone acts weird on Twitter.)
- manigandham 7y ago
  That's called a joke.
manigandham 7y ago
He interviewed with Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan. Also who on the left would interview him? That's the issue with claiming that he only talked to one side.
- jashmatthews 7y ago
  As he said in his interview with Peterson, he declined interviews with any centrist media. He filed an NLRB complaint before posting, hired Charles Johnson (who is a professional conspiracy dude and claims to know where MH370 is) to run PR and made a bee-line directly for maximum exposure with people like Molyneaux. That's a very deliberate choice. He's no martyr of rational thought.
  - alxmp 7y ago
    Where is the centrist media? Mainstream media is a mix of SJW and occasional attacks on corporations as a diversion to hide the actual exploitative system. Also, in what world is Joe Rogan alt-right? He's all over the place politically (as one should be). EDIT: Apparently libertarians are such a great threat to the people who have their snouts in the trough that they have to be labeled "alt-right".
  - reroute1 7y ago
    "Centrist media" kind of took a dump on him... Why would he run to them? Is Joe Rogan not a centrist? He is self proclaimed liberal on most topics, right wing is a silly label
- uxcolumbo 7y ago
  What makes you think Joe Rogan is alt right? Watching his interviews with various people who are more left leaning doesn't give me the impression that he is alt-right.
  - jashmatthews 7y ago
    He didn’t appear on Rogan until a long time after his first interviews.