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> The investment you have to make to really grok static typing is quite large. It took about 2 years for me to be really comfortable in TS. That sounds a bit e

> The investment you have to make to really grok static typing is quite large. It took about 2 years for me to be really comfortable in TS. That sounds a bit exaggerated from my experience. If anyone interested in TS got discouraged reading your comment, it took between like 2 days and 2 weeks for my team to be really comfortable in TS. If you already know JavaScript and if you already have some experience with statically-typed languages, TS is literally JS with static types.

lostmsu 6y ago
To be fair, TypeScript's typing is very overloaded with stuff, and is much more complicated than Java or C#'s.
- deathtrader666 6y ago
  Hence my love for ReasonML / OCaml with the Bucklescript compiler.
  - rhlsthrm 6y ago
    Do you use ReasonML on the backend as well? Or just something like ReasonReact? I've been interested in Reason and still wondering the best way to work it into my NodeJS/React/Typescript stack.
    - itsArtur 6y ago
      I am not parent comment's author, but I use TS on the backend and I did look into ReasonML. I love most of Reason's syntax and FP in general, but unfortunately, reason/bucklescript ecosystem just isn't mature enough for a serious project. I'd recommend against using it unless you are in some megacorp and you can afford to build general-purpose tooling.
- mekster 6y ago
  Doesn't mean it's hard to get started. It only means, if you want to type everything to the detail, you can do it.
city41 6y ago
Maybe my choice of the word "comfortable" was incorrect (although I would say "grok" was a spot on word choice in this context). It took me a good while to get the point where no matter what I encounter in TS, I feel pretty confident I can arrive at understanding it. The type system is very powerful and there are some deep rabbit holes you can find yourself in. For example, if you can follow this blog post after only two weeks then you are much smarter than me: https://medium.com/free-code-camp/typescript-curry-ramda-types-f747e99744ab https://medium.com/free-code-camp/typescript-curry-ramda-typ.... This is a pretty extreme example, but sometimes you hit crazy types or crazy type errors like this. But I would agree it doesn't take all that long to feel comfortable enough with TS to be productive with it.
- ggregoire 6y ago
  Interesting article. :) And there is a useful library linked at the end: https://github.com/pirix-gh/ts-toolbelt https://github.com/pirix-gh/ts-toolbelt.

lostmsu 6y ago

To be fair, TypeScript's typing is very overloaded with stuff, and is much more complicated than Java or C#'s.

deathtrader666 6y ago
Hence my love for ReasonML / OCaml with the Bucklescript compiler.
- rhlsthrm 6y ago
  Do you use ReasonML on the backend as well? Or just something like ReasonReact? I've been interested in Reason and still wondering the best way to work it into my NodeJS/React/Typescript stack.
  - itsArtur 6y ago
    I am not parent comment's author, but I use TS on the backend and I did look into ReasonML. I love most of Reason's syntax and FP in general, but unfortunately, reason/bucklescript ecosystem just isn't mature enough for a serious project. I'd recommend against using it unless you are in some megacorp and you can afford to build general-purpose tooling.
mekster 6y ago
Doesn't mean it's hard to get started. It only means, if you want to type everything to the detail, you can do it.

city41 6y ago

Maybe my choice of the word "comfortable" was incorrect (although I would say "grok" was a spot on word choice in this context). It took me a good while to get the point where no matter what I encounter in TS, I feel pretty confident I can arrive at understanding it. The type system is very powerful and there are some deep rabbit holes you can find yourself in. For example, if you can follow this blog post after only two weeks then you are much smarter than me: https://medium.com/free-code-camp/typescript-curry-ramda-types-f747e99744ab https://medium.com/free-code-camp/typescript-curry-ramda-typ.... This is a pretty extreme example, but sometimes you hit crazy types or crazy type errors like this. But I would agree it doesn't take all that long to feel comfortable enough with TS to be productive with it.

ggregoire 6y ago
Interesting article. :) And there is a useful library linked at the end: https://github.com/pirix-gh/ts-toolbelt https://github.com/pirix-gh/ts-toolbelt.