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The dude is talking about probabilities and distributions, while the stats-ignorant public is generalizing to every individual. It's impossible to have a scien

The dude is talking about probabilities and distributions, while the stats-ignorant public is generalizing to every individual. It's impossible to have a scientific and open minded debate about the differences between genders. Even theorizing biologic differences exist makes you a sexist. Let alone bringing up this question in public. Edit: Yes, his memo is totally tone deaf. I thought his wording was very questionable. But the his core argument (regarding differences in biology leading to differences in distributions) is worth debating. Example: There's a noticeable distributional difference in 100m running times between genders (due to biology). That said any number of men or women are faster runners than me :) Population doesn't mean anything for the individual.

mirimir 6y ago
> Even theorizing biologic differences exist makes you a sexist. Eggs vs sperm -- plumbing aside -- is a fundamental biologic difference. And bringing a pregnancy to term, and delivering without bleeding out, sort of requires a uterus. But of course, it's gotta stop there. Edit: If someone wants to explain away such differences, I'd love to see the argument.
- mmmBacon 6y ago
  People focus on the “plumbing” but the hormones produced by the plumbing are the important things that give us different behavior. I found this article about trans men to be fascinating. The hormones made me more impatient. I had lots of female friends and one of the qualities they loved about me was that I was a great listener. After being on testosterone, they informed me that my listening skills weren’t what they used to be https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feature/crossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-found-the-truth-was-more-complex/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feat...
- legolas2412 6y ago
  > But of course, it's gotta stop there. What about higher amount of testosterone making men have more muscles and better sprinters? There are biological differences that affect performance in various activities. How much in comparison to nurture, and in what activities, seems to be an open question
tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
And it explicitly states that generalizing to individuals is wrong (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586-Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586-Googles-Ideo..., page 4).

mirimir 6y ago

> Even theorizing biologic differences exist makes you a sexist. Eggs vs sperm -- plumbing aside -- is a fundamental biologic difference. And bringing a pregnancy to term, and delivering without bleeding out, sort of requires a uterus. But of course, it's gotta stop there. Edit: If someone wants to explain away such differences, I'd love to see the argument.

mmmBacon 6y ago
People focus on the “plumbing” but the hormones produced by the plumbing are the important things that give us different behavior. I found this article about trans men to be fascinating. The hormones made me more impatient. I had lots of female friends and one of the qualities they loved about me was that I was a great listener. After being on testosterone, they informed me that my listening skills weren’t what they used to be https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feature/crossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-found-the-truth-was-more-complex/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feat...
legolas2412 6y ago
> But of course, it's gotta stop there. What about higher amount of testosterone making men have more muscles and better sprinters? There are biological differences that affect performance in various activities. How much in comparison to nurture, and in what activities, seems to be an open question

tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago

And it explicitly states that generalizing to individuals is wrong (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586-Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586-Googles-Ideo..., page 4).