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I think conversations can be had with people like him, instead of taking the worst part of their views and ostracizing them for it. I think it is fine to acknow

I think conversations can be had with people like him, instead of taking the worst part of their views and ostracizing them for it. I think it is fine to acknowledge angst in the implementation of progressive ideals, that angst will often be mixed in with purely insensitive and uneducated thoughts. There are productive outcomes possible by parsing and separating those issues. I think it has been a big mistake of tech platforms - and really the people in the geographical area they are in - to simply be content with deplatforming people, assuming they are irreconcilable. It only emboldens, it doesn't stop the spread of disagreement, and from my perspective there really is a lot of common ground which is really just angst in implementation of progressive ideals.

azinman2 7y ago
Except this wasn’t a conversation between people. It was an email blast nobody asked for or opted into.
- JPKab 7y ago
  It was purposely leaked from an internal message board by an employee who didn't like the content.
- duxup 7y ago
  Was it an random email or on Google's internal discussion boards?
- KungFuJohnny 7y ago
  Much like your post.
duxup 7y ago
Agreed. Even beyond that there is this desire for people to note something is wrong with how someone said it, spelling or just about anything....and that is used in place of actually discussing the topic. Nobody cares what anyone actually means it seems. They'd rather bicker about the minutia around it to discount whatever anyone said. I've been told by other people on the internet what I really meant when I said a thing, told them that isn't what I think...and have them tell me again that I think that thing. It can be surreal.
devindotcom 7y ago
Not that you're wrong, but this sort of presumes that no conversation was had or attempted. It doesn't seem likely to me that this is so. It sounded to me at the time (if I remember correctly) as if there was a conversation, it broke down, and Damore's response was the document we all saw. It feels more like he simply didn't like the way the conversation was going.
- waheoo 7y ago
  No conversation was had. James sent a memo (common thing to do) as a draft to a few people for comment. Got fired in about two seconds flat by people who clearly did not even read the thing.

azinman2 7y ago

Except this wasn’t a conversation between people. It was an email blast nobody asked for or opted into.

JPKab 7y ago
It was purposely leaked from an internal message board by an employee who didn't like the content.
duxup 7y ago
Was it an random email or on Google's internal discussion boards?
KungFuJohnny 7y ago
Much like your post.

duxup 7y ago

Agreed. Even beyond that there is this desire for people to note something is wrong with how someone said it, spelling or just about anything....and that is used in place of actually discussing the topic. Nobody cares what anyone actually means it seems. They'd rather bicker about the minutia around it to discount whatever anyone said. I've been told by other people on the internet what I really meant when I said a thing, told them that isn't what I think...and have them tell me again that I think that thing. It can be surreal.

devindotcom 7y ago

Not that you're wrong, but this sort of presumes that no conversation was had or attempted. It doesn't seem likely to me that this is so. It sounded to me at the time (if I remember correctly) as if there was a conversation, it broke down, and Damore's response was the document we all saw. It feels more like he simply didn't like the way the conversation was going.

waheoo 7y ago
No conversation was had. James sent a memo (common thing to do) as a draft to a few people for comment. Got fired in about two seconds flat by people who clearly did not even read the thing.