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Is there evidence that these "accusations of impropriety" materially impact elections? From my research, the outrage about votor fraud is completely overblown.

• sio8ohPi 6y ago
  Did you read the linked article? It discusses NC's 2018 9th district election, which was thrown out entirely due to ballot harvesting and tampering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_North_Carolina%27s_9th_congressional_district_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_North_Carolina%27s_9th_co...
  • greglindahl 6y ago
    Are you sure you drew the correct lesson from the incident? There were a ton of rumors, witnesses, statistical evidence, and so forth. It sure didn't make it sound like undetected vote fraud could be common.
    • sio8ohPi 6y ago
      Dowless appears to have gotten away with a similar scheme in 2014. Moreover, I'm from a state that regularly sees serious voting abnormalities[1]. Everyone knows the elections are rigged and nothing is ever done about it. So no, I don't think undetected electoral fraud is implausible, any more than I think, say, undetected insider trading is implausible. [1]: https://www.salon.com/2019/08/30/probe-of-missing-georgia-votes-finds-extreme-irregularities-in-black-districts-and/ https://www.salon.com/2019/08/30/probe-of-missing-georgia-vo...
  • Frondo 6y ago
    Also, those actions are electoral fraud (the people running the election do the crime), not voter fraud (the people voting do the crime).
    • sio8ohPi 6y ago
      Correct, the attacks enabled by ballot harvesting are primarily electoral fraud, not voter fraud. I never said anything about voter fraud; that was a non-sequitur introduced by the parent commenter.
      • Frondo 6y ago
        Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that that was your error.