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The financial benefit seems pretty clear, conditional on self-driving tech working. The capital cost of the hardware would be amortized. Let’s say a driver cost

The financial benefit seems pretty clear, conditional on self-driving tech working. The capital cost of the hardware would be amortized. Let’s say a driver costs $10/hour. If the self-driving car is active for 16 hours a day it saves you $58k a year in driver wages. Then over more years that number multiplies. It seems totally realistic for self driving tech to cost five figures per vehicle. With mass production the cost of hardware would go down like it always does. I also think it makes a lot of less driver-time-inefficient routes more viable, like driving someone from the city deep into the suburbs with little chance of a return fare. This grows the addressable market. There are also ethical, legal, and P.R. disadvantages to exploiting human drivers that seem to be getting more significant over time. Personally I’m not super optimistic about the near-term technical viability of self driving cars but it does seem to make Uber’s prospects look better to investors given some possible paths the future might take.

paulcole 6y ago
So instead of paying a bunch of people $10/hour, Uber is going to pony up front for a huge number of vehicles and the staff it takes to maintain them? Or are scads of private owners going to hand over their car to Uber to run as AI-taxis for $10/hr?
- djannzjkzxn 6y ago
  $10/hour is a rough estimate for the after expenses earnings for Uber drivers. The gross Uber pays is more like $16/hour so that’s the number to compare if you are going to look at Uber’s all-in cost to run a fleet. Using the 16 hours/day estimate it comes out to $93k a year of driver payments saved, which seems like it should easily pay for the purchase and maintenance of a car (especially if the car lasts multiple years). Uber has access to capital so they can handle the “up front” nature of the expense. Paying people to drive a car around all day is expensive and if Uber could avoid that they would have a better business.
  - paulcole 6y ago
    Yeah, 16 hours of driving a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for multiple years does seem reasonable for a car. Feeling like a fool for doubting Uber’s self-driving end game.

paulcole 6y ago

So instead of paying a bunch of people $10/hour, Uber is going to pony up front for a huge number of vehicles and the staff it takes to maintain them? Or are scads of private owners going to hand over their car to Uber to run as AI-taxis for $10/hr?

djannzjkzxn 6y ago
$10/hour is a rough estimate for the after expenses earnings for Uber drivers. The gross Uber pays is more like $16/hour so that’s the number to compare if you are going to look at Uber’s all-in cost to run a fleet. Using the 16 hours/day estimate it comes out to $93k a year of driver payments saved, which seems like it should easily pay for the purchase and maintenance of a car (especially if the car lasts multiple years). Uber has access to capital so they can handle the “up front” nature of the expense. Paying people to drive a car around all day is expensive and if Uber could avoid that they would have a better business.
- paulcole 6y ago
  Yeah, 16 hours of driving a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for multiple years does seem reasonable for a car. Feeling like a fool for doubting Uber’s self-driving end game.