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> > Can we agree that whatever Jeff Bezos' hourly income is, it's many, many orders of magnitude more than $15/hour? > Irrelevant, as they don't perform the sa
by kerkeslager 7y ago
> > Can we agree that whatever Jeff Bezos' hourly income is, it's many, many orders of magnitude more than $15/hour?
> Irrelevant, as they don't perform the same duty nor did they share the same risk. They're free to start their own companies if they think it's such a surefire way to guaranteed wealth.
Let's address this one part at a time:
1. No duty is worth what Bezos makes.
2. A surefire way to guaranteed wealth is to start with so much wealth that even if you lose all your investments, you're still wealthy and will continue to be for the rest of your life even if you never make money again. That's where Bezos was decades ago.
3. And while we're at it, yeah, let's empower poor people to start their own businesses. I.e. give people a standard of living where they might have money to risk to begin with. I.e. not $15/hour.
> I didn't say this, in fact, I said exactly what you said. I'm seeing talk that is 99% Amazon and 1%... everyone else. And that's being generous. I can't remember the last time I saw a headline that talked about these issues elsewhere even though the comments always bring up plenty of alternative examples. How come we're okay with people that stock grocery stores to make $8? Is their job any less hard than boxing things up in an Amazon warehouse? There are way more grocery stores across the country than Amazon warehouses.
So basically, you agree with me except that you had to jump in to defend a poor defenseless multibillion dollar international company?
> If it were up to me, I would be directing all this effort to getting Congress to actually pass laws that force these companies to act right rather than begging Bezos to hand out a couple more biscuits. You know, that one tiny thing that representatives are supposed to do for their constituents: pass laws.
Great: why don't you do that instead of derailing any effort by jumping in to defend Amazon?
> There you go. The alternative is living on the street. Thank you, Amazon, for lifting people out of homelessness. For that noble deed, we're going to target you for not doing enough while everyone else gets a pass for not doing anything.
Dude, you're so set on diverting focus away from Amazon's wrong doing if Amazon literally stabbed someone you'd comment how it alleviated their high blood pressure.
Slave wage jobs are arguably better than homelessness, but you know what's even better than that? A society with an income distribution that makes a vague pretense of being proportionally meritocratic, and where are alternatives are better than homelessness and working for what pittances the rich deign to give us.
- pb7 7y ago>1. No duty is worth what Bezos makes. Says who? You? You know how I know it's worth that much? Because he already has that much. The free market has decided. >That's where Bezos was decades ago. Nope. >So basically, you agree with me except that you had to jump in to defend a poor defenseless multibillion dollar international company? My principles don't discriminate by dollar figure or other arbitrary measures. That's what makes them principles. >Great: why don't you do that instead of derailing any effort by jumping in to defend Amazon? I can do both? Isn't that what you were preaching before? >Dude, you're so set on diverting focus away from Amazon's wrong doing if Amazon literally stabbed someone you'd comment how it alleviated their high blood pressure. Great strawman. We're done here.
- kerkeslager 7y ago> Says who? You? You know how I know it's worth that much? Because he already has that much. The free market has decided. Which only goes to show that the free market is absolutely terrible at deciding things. > > That's where Bezos was decades ago. > Nope. Well, actually, Bezos did surpass the $10 million in wealth mark at least two decades ago, so I'm really not sure what you're on about. > My principles don't discriminate by dollar figure or other arbitrary measures. That's what makes them principles. What principle are you applying here exactly? > I can do both? Isn't that what you were preaching before? But you aren't doing both. You're just defending Amazon. You claim to care about worker's rights and not like Amazon and Bezos, but all I see you doing here is saying Amazon and Bezos deserve what they get and the workers deserve what they get, including subsistence-level wages and unsafe working conditions. If this is how you treat people you like and people you're defending, I hope to always stay on your bad side!