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Hmm. I think they are valuable and can be considered separately, like: 1) that we have a constitution that limits federal authority (for what I think are many

by lcall 6y ago

Hmm. I think they are valuable and can be considered separately, like: 1) that we have a constitution that limits federal authority (for what I think are many good historical reasons); 2) socialism/communism has caused big problems, also with many extensively painful historical examples. I relate this to "government cares for us"; 3) my beliefs about the nature of life, purpose of government, importance of freedom to choose what one does with one's earnings, etc., also could be considered separately. And that I have learned for myself of God's reality. 4) many others, individually also, I think...if were to take more time on them each. Like my personal experiences with the worst customer service I've ever had, being from federal agencies. Etc. But we don't have to, of course. :)

chillacy 6y ago
Good fanout, but consider: 1. is normative, it assumes the reader respects the all of the (US) constitution's values. Two possibilities: (a) the reader is from outside the US (this article is about Finnish basic income after all) and (b) the reader is american but disagrees with the constitution's values (which ironically is somewhat in spirit with the constitution anyways, free speech and all) 2. This one is somewhat of a problem of semantics if you've ever tried to argue with hardline socialist/capitalists because there is no purely socialist or purely capitalist state out there, even in the US we have plenty of government controls. Hardline socialists are eager to distance themselves from historical failures (it wasn't "real" socialism) and capitalists are eager to distance themselves from supposed market failures (crony capitalism). (I definitely have personal bias to the latter though. There are plenty of distorted incentives which create market failures, yet I will admit that markets left to their own devices often result in sub-optimal outcomes through a process like the prisoner's dilemma) 3. Not necessarily communicatable to every reader but maybe similar readers would be able to relate. 4. Also not communicatable to every reader but I can believe that one :) though the worst customer service I've ever had was from comcast (caused by either {lack of government regulation | government regulation creating monopolies } depending on who you ask), and they refused to refund a double billing mistake until I ended up having to use some FTC website to make a formal complaint, at which point they finally assigned me a real customer service person from their business division.
- lcall 6y ago
  1) Yes the OP was about Finland, which is their business, but I was specifically commenting about the concept wrt the US Fed Gov. 2) Disregarding "true believers" on either side of this one who would not be convinced regardless, I think Soviets, Mao, Venezuela, others in Asia, and even France are convincing enough to enough people that there is reasonable hope the USA will not go too far in that direction. If we do, we have serious problems of understanding, education, and communication, and whatever underlies those, IMO. Others are free to disagree of course. 3) Anyone who wants to find why I say I know what I know, can also investigate for themselves. :) 4) Re comcast: so they say, yes. Glad I have not been forced to use them so far, and for your tip on the FTC website in case I ever do have to. Thanks for reading my comments, and your thoughtful replies. All the best to you.

by lcall 6y ago

chillacy 6y ago

Good fanout, but consider: 1. is normative, it assumes the reader respects the all of the (US) constitution's values. Two possibilities: (a) the reader is from outside the US (this article is about Finnish basic income after all) and (b) the reader is american but disagrees with the constitution's values (which ironically is somewhat in spirit with the constitution anyways, free speech and all) 2. This one is somewhat of a problem of semantics if you've ever tried to argue with hardline socialist/capitalists because there is no purely socialist or purely capitalist state out there, even in the US we have plenty of government controls. Hardline socialists are eager to distance themselves from historical failures (it wasn't "real" socialism) and capitalists are eager to distance themselves from supposed market failures (crony capitalism). (I definitely have personal bias to the latter though. There are plenty of distorted incentives which create market failures, yet I will admit that markets left to their own devices often result in sub-optimal outcomes through a process like the prisoner's dilemma) 3. Not necessarily communicatable to every reader but maybe similar readers would be able to relate. 4. Also not communicatable to every reader but I can believe that one :) though the worst customer service I've ever had was from comcast (caused by either {lack of government regulation | government regulation creating monopolies } depending on who you ask), and they refused to refund a double billing mistake until I ended up having to use some FTC website to make a formal complaint, at which point they finally assigned me a real customer service person from their business division.

lcall 6y ago
1) Yes the OP was about Finland, which is their business, but I was specifically commenting about the concept wrt the US Fed Gov. 2) Disregarding "true believers" on either side of this one who would not be convinced regardless, I think Soviets, Mao, Venezuela, others in Asia, and even France are convincing enough to enough people that there is reasonable hope the USA will not go too far in that direction. If we do, we have serious problems of understanding, education, and communication, and whatever underlies those, IMO. Others are free to disagree of course. 3) Anyone who wants to find why I say I know what I know, can also investigate for themselves. :) 4) Re comcast: so they say, yes. Glad I have not been forced to use them so far, and for your tip on the FTC website in case I ever do have to. Thanks for reading my comments, and your thoughtful replies. All the best to you.