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Think America was divided in the 1970s? Try the 1860s. And if you somehow think that the US Civil War doesn't count because it was soldiers fighting, remember
by parsimo2010 6y ago
Think America was divided in the 1970s? Try the 1860s.
And if you somehow think that the US Civil War doesn't count because it was soldiers fighting, remember that one of the precursors to the war occurred in Kansas. In the 1850s, civilians from both sides invaded and fought to kick the other side out so they could rig Kansas' vote on slavery. It was violence between civilians and obvious attempts to manipulate a democratic vote by both sides.
I'm not saying that the division now or in the 1970s is acceptable, but America's history (and that of many other "civilized" countries) is bathed in blood. Politicians win elections by having a "better" stance on the issues compared to their opponent. If they can make an issue divisive and considered a deal-breaker then they can keep supporters on their side, even if they are screwing their constituents on many smaller issues. This is why abortion is equated with premeditated murder on one side and complete forfeiture of a woman's autonomy on the other. This is why gun control is equated with supporting mass shootings on one side and the complete abandonment of freedom and the US Constitution on the other.
We should strive to be better, but realize that this isn't the worst it's ever been. It does seem like in the past couple decades, the increasing flood of information has made many aware of the divisions. Previously you could have lived you life in your community where most of the people think like you.
- neonate 6y agoThe article includes most of that.
- parsimo2010 6y agoThe article mentions the US Civil War in it's third and second to last sentences in the last paragraph, and that's the only place. I expanded on that by a considerable amount. Right now I feel like the Civil War is an apt comparison since we have state governors making pacts between themselves to act a certain way regardless of what the federal government says to do.
- neonate 6y agoSorry, I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't added anything interesting. I enjoyed those parts of your comment. It just sounded like you hadn't read the article, since you repeated its points as if they were new. I was trying to follow the site rule against saying "did you even read the article" (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).
- hellofunk 6y agoExactly. I got downvoted for mentioning this elsewhere, but it has been noted over the last decade that modern political polarization is as bad in the 21st century as it was during the 1860's, which is opposite the thesis of this article.
- mcphage 6y ago> Think America was divided in the 1970s? Try the 1860s. That was right before that big war that killed over 600,000 people, right?