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I'm one of those people. I don't want my parents to die because some people couldn't suck it up for a few months. Get mad at your government, not people that ar

by qppo 6y ago

I'm one of those people. I don't want my parents to die because some people couldn't suck it up for a few months. Get mad at your government, not people that are afraid for their loved ones and being unable to make it to their funerals. The reason hospitals aren't overwhelmed is because social distancing is working. All these "facts" are evidence of quarantine doing what it was intended to do. The quarantine we have is already extremely relaxed. I don't think there's any reason to relax it further without killing more people.

heavenlyblue 6y ago
The people are losing jobs and their businesses, and you only care about your parents? I work for a startup, full-remote - I wish we all agreed upon the amount of people who could die from the epidemic and relaxed the rules. There’s just too many people I know who are not going to get their jobs back after all of this is over (this will affect their lives for way longer after it all ends). Dying is a natural part of living. Many people would prefer to die rather than continue living in isolation. The quarantine is doing it’s work, but isolation is not an answer because that’s not living.
- qppo 6y ago
  I care about a lot of people, and me going about my business in public puts my family and your family at too much risk to justify it. Businesses can be rebuilt, jobs will come back. Lives won't. The government has the ability to keep society from collapsing and maintaining a decent quality of life in the meantime and we should be furious at them for their failure to do so. The quarantine is going to last only a few months likely, or a year at most. It's not indefinite, and I'd suggest anyone who'd rather die than accept reality should seek professional help.
- jddj 6y ago
  Until the danger is reduced (via therapeutics or societal adaptations), your unqualified and unquantified "many" would ideally have to wait until they become a qualified and quantified majority. That's how living in a modern society rather than a vacuum is supposed to play out, anyway. In reality, the economic concerns (note: this is different from "I'd rather die than live in isolation [for a few months]!") will probably win out soon enough.
  - heavenlyblue 6y ago
    The quantified majority is already voting for it in the UK: nobody really cares about it that much and are going out in the parks. There’s quite a few occurrences of politicians going to their second home/visiting extended family and I cannot believe other people don’t do that. So in reality people are not doing what you think they are doing, and that’s even worse. On top of this all I don’t remember people actually voting on this matter. This all had been forced on us by the governments. Nevertheless, I am very much pro-isolation. But I don’t really care about it - my life hasn’t had any drastic changes and I can still do most of the things I was doing from home. Most of the people can’t afford that.

by qppo 6y ago

heavenlyblue 6y ago

The people are losing jobs and their businesses, and you only care about your parents? I work for a startup, full-remote - I wish we all agreed upon the amount of people who could die from the epidemic and relaxed the rules. There’s just too many people I know who are not going to get their jobs back after all of this is over (this will affect their lives for way longer after it all ends). Dying is a natural part of living. Many people would prefer to die rather than continue living in isolation. The quarantine is doing it’s work, but isolation is not an answer because that’s not living.

qppo 6y ago
I care about a lot of people, and me going about my business in public puts my family and your family at too much risk to justify it. Businesses can be rebuilt, jobs will come back. Lives won't. The government has the ability to keep society from collapsing and maintaining a decent quality of life in the meantime and we should be furious at them for their failure to do so. The quarantine is going to last only a few months likely, or a year at most. It's not indefinite, and I'd suggest anyone who'd rather die than accept reality should seek professional help.
jddj 6y ago
Until the danger is reduced (via therapeutics or societal adaptations), your unqualified and unquantified "many" would ideally have to wait until they become a qualified and quantified majority. That's how living in a modern society rather than a vacuum is supposed to play out, anyway. In reality, the economic concerns (note: this is different from "I'd rather die than live in isolation [for a few months]!") will probably win out soon enough.
- heavenlyblue 6y ago
  The quantified majority is already voting for it in the UK: nobody really cares about it that much and are going out in the parks. There’s quite a few occurrences of politicians going to their second home/visiting extended family and I cannot believe other people don’t do that. So in reality people are not doing what you think they are doing, and that’s even worse. On top of this all I don’t remember people actually voting on this matter. This all had been forced on us by the governments. Nevertheless, I am very much pro-isolation. But I don’t really care about it - my life hasn’t had any drastic changes and I can still do most of the things I was doing from home. Most of the people can’t afford that.