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> Check again. Your link backs up the chart I posted. The chart you posted shows a total of just over 20k deaths in all of New York state between March 1st and

> Check again. Your link backs up the chart I posted. The chart you posted shows a total of just over 20k deaths in all of New York state between March 1st and April 25th, while the link I posted shows 27k deaths in NYC alone between March 11th and April 25th. Your chart also shows about 4k non-coronavirus deaths, again across the whole state for that period, while the NYC-only stats show more than 10k "Deaths not known to be confirmed or probable COVID-19" in less than that amount of time. Now repeat with double the population to account for the rest of the state (with lower coronavirus incidence) and another 10 days (about 20% of the time period in question) that had the normal incidence of non-coronavirus deaths. So, no, nothing about that chart matches up to reality.

SnowProblem 6y ago
The link you posted shows 11k/16k deaths from COVID. Nothing about 27k. And the chart I posted doesn't show total deaths in NYC, but some selection of morbidities. Is it wrong? Probably. But official data also says heart attacks and strokes are massively down (60-80%), and covid is way up, and there are big incentive problems. I stand by the point.
- SpaceNugget 6y ago
  The nyc.gov link magicalist posted reports: 11460 confirmed covid-19 deaths 5213 probable but unconfirmed covid 19 deaths 10964 not know to be probable and not confirmed deaths (all non-covid deaths) Which adds up to 27637 total deaths. Your graph shows ~ 20000 total deaths. That's significantly different. Also, the sources for the graph you posted are: 1. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html which as far as I can get it to show, only counts deaths from pneumonia regardless of cause. So I really don't understand why they listed that as a source for the graph as that information isn't displayed. 2. covidtracking.com Which could be the source of their numbers for covid deaths but that leaves no source for their totals.
  - SnowProblem 6y ago
    Thanks for correcting me, and to magicalist. I apologize. This was difficult to find, but here's the breakdown for causes of death each week: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6 https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-a... In New York, total deaths from heart-related diseases is up, not down, since covid. I do see some weirdness in other states, but not New York.

SnowProblem 6y ago

The link you posted shows 11k/16k deaths from COVID. Nothing about 27k. And the chart I posted doesn't show total deaths in NYC, but some selection of morbidities. Is it wrong? Probably. But official data also says heart attacks and strokes are massively down (60-80%), and covid is way up, and there are big incentive problems. I stand by the point.

SpaceNugget 6y ago
The nyc.gov link magicalist posted reports: 11460 confirmed covid-19 deaths 5213 probable but unconfirmed covid 19 deaths 10964 not know to be probable and not confirmed deaths (all non-covid deaths) Which adds up to 27637 total deaths. Your graph shows ~ 20000 total deaths. That's significantly different. Also, the sources for the graph you posted are: 1. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html which as far as I can get it to show, only counts deaths from pneumonia regardless of cause. So I really don't understand why they listed that as a source for the graph as that information isn't displayed. 2. covidtracking.com Which could be the source of their numbers for covid deaths but that leaves no source for their totals.
- SnowProblem 6y ago
  Thanks for correcting me, and to magicalist. I apologize. This was difficult to find, but here's the breakdown for causes of death each week: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6 https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-a... In New York, total deaths from heart-related diseases is up, not down, since covid. I do see some weirdness in other states, but not New York.