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I agree with the title, but am not interested at the OSX / XCode stuff because I'm a very happy, satisfied Linux & Lenovo user. My old company tried to force m

I agree with the title, but am not interested at the OSX / XCode stuff because I'm a very happy, satisfied Linux & Lenovo user. My old company tried to force me to use a Macbook Pro, saying "developer community uses it", and I refused, saying "I give no piece of .... to a software with stupid and pretty looking icons, windows etc." because that stuff requires us to use mouse/touchpad stuff, which are useless, time wasting, uncomfortable and much less programmable, compared to a good keyboard ( good means not the ones apple produces ) As a coder, I want to be able to program my desktop to save time. There are many better ways to start a program clicking a pretty icon like a smiling cow, because we have a keyboard and also a program called dmenu -a real life saver-. Guys claiming that OSX provides a developer friendly desktop environment should give a try to an ideal linux desktop. I'm not talking about the crappy ones trying to compete against pixar, like gnome kde etc, I'm suggesting the tiling window managers such as xmonad, dwm, dmenu etc. Especially, I love dmenu. It makes possible to find a bookmark I saved to my delicious account, in just one second, pressing window+p buttons. This awesomeness counts for my browser history also. I type URLs calling dmenu that completes my input by searching my history, no need to open a browser window, no need to use a mouse or sth equivelent. Another awesomeness I love about Linux is the customizable browsers like UZBL, it's very easy to bind a key for a specific task. I'm saving 30-40 bookmarks each day, thanks to the B button. Only thing I need to do to save a bookmark to my delicious account is to press B button. Linux provides much more richer desktop environment with thousands of options, for the developers not fan of hipster UIs.

matt2224 16y ago
Well this is just trolling.
- diamondhead 16y ago
  Guess it is, but as I pointed, there are companies forcing its folk to use OSX for development because it's popular around the developer community. I think OSX is a multimedia software with unix base.
Terretta 16y ago
Friend of mine who loves VIM recently switched from Ubuntu on PC clone to OS X on MacBook Pro. He doesn't use a mouse for anything, ever. Just because the icons are there doesn't mean you have to click them. Sounds like you just need someone to show you how Mac keyboard customisation works.
- diamondhead 16y ago
  VIM is an editor. I'm talking about the whole desktop environment, especially the windows, also tried to set some keyboard shortcuts while I was using the Macbook Pro my company gave me. I know what I am missing (a useless, pretty looking hipster GUI) but have never seen an Apple user who knows what he misses.
  - Terretta 16y ago
    I'm talking about the OS, not an editor. If you have to touch mouse or trackpad ever, you're doing it wrong. As noted elsewhere though, you do need to turn on keyboard accessibility. And as for what's missing--window sizing. That's a free or $10 add on depending on how slick you want it.
- threedaymonk 16y ago
  You do have to change some keyboard accessibility settings, though, for the interface to be usable without a mouse (dialogs etc.). Out of the box, you can't use OS X with the keyboard alone.
  - Terretta 16y ago
    Out of the box means without third party add on. Changing a pref is available in the box.
bobwaycott 16y ago
Hmm ... not saying xmonad and the like aren't awesome ... but as a full-time Mac dev who codes in Python, JS, and Obj-C, I can attest to the certainty that TextMate/Emacs + Alfred (or the like) + DTerm = nearly 0 use for a mouse all day long. And by "all day" I mean all night while coding, too. The only thing I haven't yet figured out is a key combo for clicking a YouTube video to play (Flash is disabled except when clicked across all my browsers). I'd downvote this if I could, cos it really does read as trolling and is definitely not on-topic.
MobyTurbo 16y ago
Hey, Mr. Power User who relies on delicious, you'd better export your delicious bookmarks and take them elsewhere, Yahoo has decided they need to cut corners and is shutting it down.
- diamondhead 16y ago
  I already have a copy on my local for dmenu :)
threedaymonk 16y ago
My employer makes me use a Mac, but that didn't stop me installing Linux on it.

matt2224 16y ago

Well this is just trolling.

diamondhead 16y ago
Guess it is, but as I pointed, there are companies forcing its folk to use OSX for development because it's popular around the developer community. I think OSX is a multimedia software with unix base.

Terretta 16y ago

Friend of mine who loves VIM recently switched from Ubuntu on PC clone to OS X on MacBook Pro. He doesn't use a mouse for anything, ever. Just because the icons are there doesn't mean you have to click them. Sounds like you just need someone to show you how Mac keyboard customisation works.

diamondhead 16y ago
VIM is an editor. I'm talking about the whole desktop environment, especially the windows, also tried to set some keyboard shortcuts while I was using the Macbook Pro my company gave me. I know what I am missing (a useless, pretty looking hipster GUI) but have never seen an Apple user who knows what he misses.
- Terretta 16y ago
  I'm talking about the OS, not an editor. If you have to touch mouse or trackpad ever, you're doing it wrong. As noted elsewhere though, you do need to turn on keyboard accessibility. And as for what's missing--window sizing. That's a free or $10 add on depending on how slick you want it.
threedaymonk 16y ago
You do have to change some keyboard accessibility settings, though, for the interface to be usable without a mouse (dialogs etc.). Out of the box, you can't use OS X with the keyboard alone.
- Terretta 16y ago
  Out of the box means without third party add on. Changing a pref is available in the box.

bobwaycott 16y ago

Hmm ... not saying xmonad and the like aren't awesome ... but as a full-time Mac dev who codes in Python, JS, and Obj-C, I can attest to the certainty that TextMate/Emacs + Alfred (or the like) + DTerm = nearly 0 use for a mouse all day long. And by "all day" I mean all night while coding, too. The only thing I haven't yet figured out is a key combo for clicking a YouTube video to play (Flash is disabled except when clicked across all my browsers). I'd downvote this if I could, cos it really does read as trolling and is definitely not on-topic.

MobyTurbo 16y ago

Hey, Mr. Power User who relies on delicious, you'd better export your delicious bookmarks and take them elsewhere, Yahoo has decided they need to cut corners and is shutting it down.

diamondhead 16y ago
I already have a copy on my local for dmenu :)

threedaymonk 16y ago

My employer makes me use a Mac, but that didn't stop me installing Linux on it.