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If vanilla HTML/CSS/JS is "Assembly", and heavy frameworks like React/Angular are "Java", what's the web app equivalent of C (light abstraction and close to the

If vanilla HTML/CSS/JS is "Assembly", and heavy frameworks like React/Angular are "Java", what's the web app equivalent of C (light abstraction and close to the metal)? Svelte?

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flowerlad 6y ago
How about these libs: https://github.com/wisercoder/uibuilder https://github.com/wisercoder/uibuilder https://lit-html.polymer-project.org/ https://lit-html.polymer-project.org/
g_delgado14 6y ago
Well with wasm, this analogy doesn't really make much sense.
- thephyber 6y ago
  wasm doesn’t have the ability to access the DOM, which is the majority of the purpose of JS in the browser.
- lukifer 6y ago
  It is a very very loose analogy ;)
IggleSniggle 6y ago
I like your analogy, but I think it's a little off. HTML/CSS/JS are "Java" and React/Angular are "Spring." I love writing vanilla js, but the problem that the frameworks are really solving for is stripping away the history of HTML/CSS/JS for a 'document oriented web' and present a "re-abstraction" for an crossplatform 'application oriented web' that just happens to live in the most dominant VM platform (the browser). In the analogy, Assembly is WebAssembly, and C is C. We just don't have the frameworks and libraries written for them yet! --- Edit: ...but yeah you're right it's Svelte. Although I hear that Angular also compiles down to something pretty "close to the metal" these days.
suyash 6y ago
Not quite in my opinion as a Web and Java developer. Java is a high performance, beautiful language. React/Angular/Vue are more like Java Server Side frameworks such as Spring etc which are Overly Complicated and Bulky.
- lukifer 6y ago
  I think I failed to emphasize the "If". :) I wasn't offering a comparison, so much as posing a framing device in order to ask a question: if minimal abstraction is 1, and highly abstracted is 10, what's the best-practice/modern web equivalent of 2-3?

If vanilla HTML/CSS/JS is "Assembly", and heavy frameworks like React/Angular are "Java", what's the web app equivalent of C (light abstraction and close to the metal)? Svelte?

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flowerlad 6y ago

How about these libs: https://github.com/wisercoder/uibuilder https://github.com/wisercoder/uibuilder https://lit-html.polymer-project.org/ https://lit-html.polymer-project.org/

g_delgado14 6y ago

Well with wasm, this analogy doesn't really make much sense.

thephyber 6y ago
wasm doesn’t have the ability to access the DOM, which is the majority of the purpose of JS in the browser.
lukifer 6y ago
It is a very very loose analogy ;)

IggleSniggle 6y ago

I like your analogy, but I think it's a little off. HTML/CSS/JS are "Java" and React/Angular are "Spring." I love writing vanilla js, but the problem that the frameworks are really solving for is stripping away the history of HTML/CSS/JS for a 'document oriented web' and present a "re-abstraction" for an crossplatform 'application oriented web' that just happens to live in the most dominant VM platform (the browser). In the analogy, Assembly is WebAssembly, and C is C. We just don't have the frameworks and libraries written for them yet! --- Edit: ...but yeah you're right it's Svelte. Although I hear that Angular also compiles down to something pretty "close to the metal" these days.

suyash 6y ago

Not quite in my opinion as a Web and Java developer. Java is a high performance, beautiful language. React/Angular/Vue are more like Java Server Side frameworks such as Spring etc which are Overly Complicated and Bulky.

lukifer 6y ago
I think I failed to emphasize the "If". :) I wasn't offering a comparison, so much as posing a framing device in order to ask a question: if minimal abstraction is 1, and highly abstracted is 10, what's the best-practice/modern web equivalent of 2-3?