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I have been using Facebook for like +10years. Facebook used to be reference for speed and usability. I left it ~4 years ago. Last day I entered again for curi

I have been using Facebook for like +10years. Facebook used to be reference for speed and usability. I left it ~4 years ago. Last day I entered again for curiosity. It's so sad. Strange interface, slow, unresponsive. It's sad.

wallawe 6y ago
Did you try the new UI? It's a lot better but you may have to opt in
reaperducer 6y ago
Facebook used to be reference for speed and usability On web, for a while. Remember when Facebook's iPhone app came out, it was a disaster. It was so slow, I could open the app, then take the elevator down to the basement of my building, drop off some outgoing mail, and return to my apartment before it finished updating the news feed. It was legendary in its time for its slowness. At first, nobody complained because there weren't a lot of "apps" available. But then all the other apps came out, and everyone complained for years that all the other app-building companies could build responsive apps, but Facebook couldn't. Then one day Facebook updated its app and it was a little better. Then another update came and it was good enough, and everyone stopped complaining and forgot. Last day I entered again for curiosity. It's so sad. Strange interface, slow, unresponsive. It's sad. I only use Facebook once a week, to update the page for a web site I manage. It is terribly slow on web. On both of the computers I use it on, loading the first page takes upwards of 15 seconds. Clicking on the text field to enter a new post takes eight to ten seconds for the editor to load. I don't know how people who are addicted to Facebook manage to use it so much without going mad.
- jtbayly 6y ago
  On their phones, perhaps? At least we already know that testing it on a computer browser is not testing it for the majority user.
- delusional 6y ago
  Remember when they had to monkey patch the android runtime because their app had too many methods? https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-the-hood-dalvik-patch-for-facebook-for-android/10151345597798920 https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-th... It's a fun hack, and I enjoy spectacle, but it might be a sign that you are complicating your app more than you need.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Remember when reached the limit for __TEXT and had to put code in sections that weren’t really meant for it: https://blog.timac.org/2016/1018-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios/ https://blog.timac.org/2016/1018-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap...? Remember when they were taking to long to start up that they pulled stuff into a separate framework just so they could meet launch deadlines: https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios-v-87-0/ https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap...? Remember when the app had 18,000 Objective-C classes: https://quellish.tumblr.com/post/126712999812/how-on-earth-the-facebook-ios-application-is-so https://quellish.tumblr.com/post/126712999812/how-on-earth-t...? Facebook’s teams somehow cannot manage their bloat and they keep hiring people to hack the platform they're running on rather than fixing the actual underlying problem.
    - plorkyeran 6y ago
      The root cause of the problem is that they have too many people working on it, and that's obviously not a problem you can hire your way out of.
      - saagarjha 6y ago
        Perhaps they should hire engineers who have the explicit job of ripping out things that should not belong.
        Apocryphon 6y ago
        Or if they must insist on writing more code than refactoring it out, perhaps they should build more products.
- keymon-o 6y ago
  > I don't know how people who are addicted to Facebook manage to use it so much without going mad That's the thing with the addiction. Once you get used to it, it doesn't matter how bad it is.
- fossuser 6y ago
  Steven Levy talks about this in his new book (which is really good). Zuckerberg's focus on mobile first was a major focus to save the company and ultimately a success story (this happened right after the IPO). Their big mistake was non-native applications.
- motoboi 6y ago
  Your comment made me remember being amazed by BigPipe and how damn fast that made the app (still called page back those days).

wallawe 6y ago

Did you try the new UI? It's a lot better but you may have to opt in

reaperducer 6y ago

Facebook used to be reference for speed and usability On web, for a while. Remember when Facebook's iPhone app came out, it was a disaster. It was so slow, I could open the app, then take the elevator down to the basement of my building, drop off some outgoing mail, and return to my apartment before it finished updating the news feed. It was legendary in its time for its slowness. At first, nobody complained because there weren't a lot of "apps" available. But then all the other apps came out, and everyone complained for years that all the other app-building companies could build responsive apps, but Facebook couldn't. Then one day Facebook updated its app and it was a little better. Then another update came and it was good enough, and everyone stopped complaining and forgot. Last day I entered again for curiosity. It's so sad. Strange interface, slow, unresponsive. It's sad. I only use Facebook once a week, to update the page for a web site I manage. It is terribly slow on web. On both of the computers I use it on, loading the first page takes upwards of 15 seconds. Clicking on the text field to enter a new post takes eight to ten seconds for the editor to load. I don't know how people who are addicted to Facebook manage to use it so much without going mad.

jtbayly 6y ago
On their phones, perhaps? At least we already know that testing it on a computer browser is not testing it for the majority user.
delusional 6y ago
Remember when they had to monkey patch the android runtime because their app had too many methods? https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-the-hood-dalvik-patch-for-facebook-for-android/10151345597798920 https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-th... It's a fun hack, and I enjoy spectacle, but it might be a sign that you are complicating your app more than you need.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Remember when reached the limit for __TEXT and had to put code in sections that weren’t really meant for it: https://blog.timac.org/2016/1018-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios/ https://blog.timac.org/2016/1018-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap...? Remember when they were taking to long to start up that they pulled stuff into a separate framework just so they could meet launch deadlines: https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios-v-87-0/ https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap...? Remember when the app had 18,000 Objective-C classes: https://quellish.tumblr.com/post/126712999812/how-on-earth-the-facebook-ios-application-is-so https://quellish.tumblr.com/post/126712999812/how-on-earth-t...? Facebook’s teams somehow cannot manage their bloat and they keep hiring people to hack the platform they're running on rather than fixing the actual underlying problem.
  - plorkyeran 6y ago
    The root cause of the problem is that they have too many people working on it, and that's obviously not a problem you can hire your way out of.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      Perhaps they should hire engineers who have the explicit job of ripping out things that should not belong.
      - Apocryphon 6y ago
        Or if they must insist on writing more code than refactoring it out, perhaps they should build more products.
keymon-o 6y ago
> I don't know how people who are addicted to Facebook manage to use it so much without going mad That's the thing with the addiction. Once you get used to it, it doesn't matter how bad it is.
fossuser 6y ago
Steven Levy talks about this in his new book (which is really good). Zuckerberg's focus on mobile first was a major focus to save the company and ultimately a success story (this happened right after the IPO). Their big mistake was non-native applications.
motoboi 6y ago
Your comment made me remember being amazed by BigPipe and how damn fast that made the app (still called page back those days).