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How did we get here? What drove the worldwide populist uprising? Speaking as one who never was in any danger of voting for Trump, what would be my alternative?

How did we get here? What drove the worldwide populist uprising? Speaking as one who never was in any danger of voting for Trump, what would be my alternative? The warhawk spouse of a womanizing politician I tired of 20 years ago? IOW, same shit, different decade? And then we're all shocked that the populist candidate actually pulled it off this time? Maybe the world collectively asked, "what's the worst that could happen?" Well, now we know.

krapp 7y ago
>Speaking as one who never was in any danger of voting for Trump, what would be my alternative? The warhawk spouse of a womanizing politician I tired of 20 years ago? OW, same shit, different decade? Yes, between the "warhawk" with eight years of ancillary experience in the White House, who served in the Senate and as Secretary of State, and the reality tv show host whose only political experience was failing at a previous presidential run, the former was still the most viable candidate for the job, even though her husband got a blowjob that one time.
- basch 7y ago
  Doesn't that depend what you want out of a candidate, someone to accelerate the status quo, or a forest fire? Nearly half the voting population voted for forest fire wrecking ball, on purpose.
  - krapp 7y ago
    Ok, fair enough. Just wanting to watch the world burn would be the exception. Although I don't consider that to be legitimate participation in the political process, so much as an act of sabotage.
    - basch 7y ago
      20% of the population trying to burn up .5% of the population, with collateral damage, is not the same thing as self sabotage. There's a difference between burning your own neighborhood down, and burning Wall Street / Washington / Hollywood / Silicon Valley down. Lighting a fire doesn't affect everyone equally, it burns up who has the most wood. It's an attack proportional to inequality, not a uniform one.
    - mreome 7y ago
      But what should legitimate participation look like for a group who feels that the political process itself has failed them?
- qiguai 7y ago
  One could argue lack of experience is a positive kpi for politicians
- lumberingjack 7y ago
  the left treats the current first lady as a complete and utter joke that's completely useless. Now imagine what even average moderate people think of Bill Clinton's wife and they wanted her to run for presidency which she sort of kind of tried too.... She can't even satisfy her own man her number one job how can she run a country?
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  > Secretary of State Sen Clinton set the middle east on fire as Secretary of State. And then ran away before it blew up in her face leaving Sen John Kerry to clean up the mess. Seriously there is something really shabby about the current political parties in the US. People forget Trump didn't just narrowly beat Clinton. He utterly trounced Jeb Bush.
locopati 7y ago
seriously? you have to ask the question? let me guess.... you don't belong to a marginal group whose lives have been made far more tenuous by the current administration than one that knows how to make government work for more people than the rich

krapp 7y ago

>Speaking as one who never was in any danger of voting for Trump, what would be my alternative? The warhawk spouse of a womanizing politician I tired of 20 years ago? OW, same shit, different decade? Yes, between the "warhawk" with eight years of ancillary experience in the White House, who served in the Senate and as Secretary of State, and the reality tv show host whose only political experience was failing at a previous presidential run, the former was still the most viable candidate for the job, even though her husband got a blowjob that one time.

basch 7y ago
Doesn't that depend what you want out of a candidate, someone to accelerate the status quo, or a forest fire? Nearly half the voting population voted for forest fire wrecking ball, on purpose.
- krapp 7y ago
  Ok, fair enough. Just wanting to watch the world burn would be the exception. Although I don't consider that to be legitimate participation in the political process, so much as an act of sabotage.
  - basch 7y ago
    20% of the population trying to burn up .5% of the population, with collateral damage, is not the same thing as self sabotage. There's a difference between burning your own neighborhood down, and burning Wall Street / Washington / Hollywood / Silicon Valley down. Lighting a fire doesn't affect everyone equally, it burns up who has the most wood. It's an attack proportional to inequality, not a uniform one.
  - mreome 7y ago
    But what should legitimate participation look like for a group who feels that the political process itself has failed them?
qiguai 7y ago
One could argue lack of experience is a positive kpi for politicians
lumberingjack 7y ago
the left treats the current first lady as a complete and utter joke that's completely useless. Now imagine what even average moderate people think of Bill Clinton's wife and they wanted her to run for presidency which she sort of kind of tried too.... She can't even satisfy her own man her number one job how can she run a country?
Gibbon1 7y ago
> Secretary of State Sen Clinton set the middle east on fire as Secretary of State. And then ran away before it blew up in her face leaving Sen John Kerry to clean up the mess. Seriously there is something really shabby about the current political parties in the US. People forget Trump didn't just narrowly beat Clinton. He utterly trounced Jeb Bush.

locopati 7y ago

seriously? you have to ask the question? let me guess.... you don't belong to a marginal group whose lives have been made far more tenuous by the current administration than one that knows how to make government work for more people than the rich