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Many times there is a heavy dose of misanthropy in these environmental discussions. Phrases like "humanity is a virus", etc. I would like to share a different
by RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
Many times there is a heavy dose of misanthropy in these environmental discussions. Phrases like "humanity is a virus", etc.
I would like to share a different perspective.There is a saying, "It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all."
Even if humanity overburdens the planet and goes extinct in the next 100 years, I prefer what we have now, than if we had remained hunter-gatherers or pre-industrial.
We have spread out to every corner of the world. With irrigation, farming, heating, air-conditioning, etc, we have transformed the most inhospitable habitats into thriving cities. Members of our species have even set foot on the moon.
We have improved the quality of life for members of our species, especially the poorest. If you had to be born as a female child to a random mother, there is no other time in the humanity's existence where you would be better off than now.
We invented language that can express the deepest and most profound thoughts to the person standing next to us, and invented writing that can encode it in a form that can be understood millennia later, and invented telecommunication that can transmit it instantly anywhere in the world.
Our concept of the "universe" has grown. It is no longer the local grassland or forest. It is no longer a steppe or continent, or even our globe. Our concept of the universe includes solar systems and galaxies and super-clusters, and even the possibilities of a multi-verse.
All animals try to control their environment, but we have learned to do so on an unprecedented scale. We learned early how to control the large fauna that could eat us. Most humans walk freely about, safe from large predators. We also, much later, learned how to control the small predators - the bacteria and viruses.
We have also learned how to control ourselves. We learned how to control reproduction. We can keep from getting pregnant when we have sex, if we desire, or get pregnant without having sex. We can organize into communities and coordinate and cooperate at a scale and sophistication beyond any other animal.
So, if this time is the time that we have ultimately outstripped the earth's capacity to support us (unlike the many, many false alarms in the past), then I say, cheers to humanity: we have lived, we have loved, we have laughed, we have wept, we have left our mark in our corner of the universe.
Yes, let us try to develop technology and do things that help ensure humanity can stay like this for much, much longer. But let us not disparage humanity and all we have accomplished.
- CalRobert 7y ago100 years may be optimistic. And I don't think young people or children today deserve an agonizing life watching their loved ones, their own children, perhaps, starving to death or dying in a water war. Also you don't need to be a hunter gatherer to not rape the planet.
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago> watching their loved ones, their own children, perhaps, starving to death or dying in a water war. Sadly, this was close to the default condition throughout much of human history. It is only recently, with the benefits of industrialization and globalization that we have made that kind of thing much rarer than it was.
- new2628 7y agoI think this is far less evident than usually assumed. The life of the last hunter gatherer tribes is probably the best approximation we have on how our ancestors may have lived. And while death is a more common (and swifter, less problematic) occurrence for these people, they were hardly unhappy compared to us -- sure, they didn't have iphones.
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y agoMany times I find these studies that show that hunter gathering was not all that bad are written from male perspectives. It is great to be a guy hunting with your buddies if the women are the ones doing the hard work of gathering. Also, you don’t experience the dangers of pregnancy and childbirth. Many times these hunter gatherer societies have much higher maternal and infant mortality than ours, and higher rates of violence against women. It is technology and the knowledge based economy that gives women an equal footing. Before that, men took advantage of their relative physical strength and size to consign women to secondary roles.
- new2628 7y ago