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What conspiracy theories are you referring to exactly? Because just based on facts (Their handling of Taiwan, their statements parroting CCP propaganda in Janua

by ciguy 6y ago

What conspiracy theories are you referring to exactly? Because just based on facts (Their handling of Taiwan, their statements parroting CCP propaganda in January claiming the virus was not transmissible between humans, their condemnation of travel restrictions as xenophobic etc...) they are pretty clearly not on the side of facts or truth. Make of that what you will, but you can't deny the facts.

austincheney 6y ago
Your comment that I replied to directly describes a conspiracy and you did not substantiate it with evidence. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy
- ciguy 6y ago
  No it does not? Stating facts is not a conspiracy.
  - austincheney 6y ago
    A conspiracy is any agents coming together, even if unknowingly, to a achieve a common objective. This is very directly what you wrote whether or not it is factual, though the writing appears very much an opinion.
simion314 6y ago
What I remember reading was something like "there is no evidence that the virus can be transmitted by humans" , was it uncovered that there was such evidence and was hidden? I see that is a lot of China blaming but I seen US politicians and media were also pushing strong into "there is no evidence" and is just the flu. Anyway this entire "show" just confirms my view on politics, the big trick to use is "Blame the others, we had the power but all the other parties are at fault we have no blame",
mytailorisrich 6y ago
Taiwan's response to Covid-19 is based on WHO's advice. It's working quite well.
- ciguy 6y ago
  The WHO refuses to acknowledge that Taiwan exists. Your comment is laughable. If anything the WHO has learned from Taiwan not the other way around.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    Caleb Fornari, please try to write substantive and constructive comments rather than hateful rants. Edit: You are posting under your name since you have disclosed it in your HN bio. If you are not pleased that people use it when replying to you then perhaps you realise that your comments do not reflect that well on you.
    - ciguy 6y ago
      Are you seriously trying to intimidate me by posting my name here? I stand by my comments, there is nothing hateful about facts.
    - dang 6y ago
      You can't bring in someone's personal details to use as ammunition in an argument. That's a form of personal attack, and we ban accounts that do it. Please don't do this again. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22personal%20details%22%20&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
      - mytailorisrich 6y ago
        I haven't "brought someone's personal details as ammunition". I have called someone by his name when had introduced himself by his name beforehand in his HN's "about". How can this be personal attack? Some would say I'm just being polite. If he does not like it then perhaps he should not publish his name on HN or should write things that he is not ashamed of. If you introduce yourself by "Hi I'm John" then you cannot complain that people call you John. This is ridiculous.
notahacker 6y ago
I have looked at the fact that the United States formally endorses the Chinese position on the 'One China' policy, and its president repeatedly thanked China for its transparency over Coronavirus and conciuded that the United States is also a mouthpiece of the CCP...
brmgb 6y ago
The WHO is an international organization trying to do its best in a complex international political field. They can't straight away say Taiwan is independent or they will be banned from China and what good would it actually do. The best they can do is avoid answering this kind of question which they unsurprisingly did. Also, please stop paroting the Republican media nonsense. The WHO did warn of human to human transmission in January [1]. They also didn't say travel restrictions were xenophobic by the way. They said they were not usually the solution to this problem while robust contact tracing, isolation and testing broadly were. A recommendation a lot of governments have apparently found very hard to follow. You can't deny facts but the facts you are putting forward just don't exist. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/who-cited-human-transmission-risk-in-january-despite-trump-claims https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/who-cited-huma...

by ciguy 6y ago

austincheney 6y ago

Your comment that I replied to directly describes a conspiracy and you did not substantiate it with evidence. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy

ciguy 6y ago
No it does not? Stating facts is not a conspiracy.
- austincheney 6y ago
  A conspiracy is any agents coming together, even if unknowingly, to a achieve a common objective. This is very directly what you wrote whether or not it is factual, though the writing appears very much an opinion.

simion314 6y ago

What I remember reading was something like "there is no evidence that the virus can be transmitted by humans" , was it uncovered that there was such evidence and was hidden? I see that is a lot of China blaming but I seen US politicians and media were also pushing strong into "there is no evidence" and is just the flu. Anyway this entire "show" just confirms my view on politics, the big trick to use is "Blame the others, we had the power but all the other parties are at fault we have no blame",

mytailorisrich 6y ago

Taiwan's response to Covid-19 is based on WHO's advice. It's working quite well.

ciguy 6y ago
The WHO refuses to acknowledge that Taiwan exists. Your comment is laughable. If anything the WHO has learned from Taiwan not the other way around.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  Caleb Fornari, please try to write substantive and constructive comments rather than hateful rants. Edit: You are posting under your name since you have disclosed it in your HN bio. If you are not pleased that people use it when replying to you then perhaps you realise that your comments do not reflect that well on you.
  - ciguy 6y ago
    Are you seriously trying to intimidate me by posting my name here? I stand by my comments, there is nothing hateful about facts.
  - dang 6y ago
    You can't bring in someone's personal details to use as ammunition in an argument. That's a form of personal attack, and we ban accounts that do it. Please don't do this again. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22personal%20details%22%20&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
    - mytailorisrich 6y ago
      I haven't "brought someone's personal details as ammunition". I have called someone by his name when had introduced himself by his name beforehand in his HN's "about". How can this be personal attack? Some would say I'm just being polite. If he does not like it then perhaps he should not publish his name on HN or should write things that he is not ashamed of. If you introduce yourself by "Hi I'm John" then you cannot complain that people call you John. This is ridiculous.

notahacker 6y ago

I have looked at the fact that the United States formally endorses the Chinese position on the 'One China' policy, and its president repeatedly thanked China for its transparency over Coronavirus and conciuded that the United States is also a mouthpiece of the CCP...

brmgb 6y ago

The WHO is an international organization trying to do its best in a complex international political field. They can't straight away say Taiwan is independent or they will be banned from China and what good would it actually do. The best they can do is avoid answering this kind of question which they unsurprisingly did. Also, please stop paroting the Republican media nonsense. The WHO did warn of human to human transmission in January [1]. They also didn't say travel restrictions were xenophobic by the way. They said they were not usually the solution to this problem while robust contact tracing, isolation and testing broadly were. A recommendation a lot of governments have apparently found very hard to follow. You can't deny facts but the facts you are putting forward just don't exist. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/who-cited-human-transmission-risk-in-january-despite-trump-claims https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/who-cited-huma...