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Presumably people whose use case would require frequent charging in places other than their home (or work) don't buy electric cars, so there's probably some sel

Presumably people whose use case would require frequent charging in places other than their home (or work) don't buy electric cars, so there's probably some selection bias here.

Reason077 6y ago
Here in the UK, Tesla owners drive more miles annually on average than owners of any other car brand[1], which suggests they don't have any qualms about driving long distances and charging away from home. (As another data point, I see Teslas regularly parked in my London neighbourhood outside homes that do not have any off-street parking/charging. So at least some EV owners get by without any home charging at all) [1] https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8263039/UK-Tesla-owners-miles-car-brands.html https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8263039/UK-...
- donaltroddyn 6y ago
  Auto Express seems to be the source of those figures, which show that diesel cars as a class have (slightly) higher average mileage than Teslas, and roughly 33% higher average mileage than full electrics as a class. Again, it seems like selection bias, in that those high-mileage drivers who can use electric do, and those that can't buy diesel. Presumably there is a cohort of diesel drivers who would switch to electric if they offered sufficient range or faster charging, especially as diesels outnumber electrics ~2.5:1 in the UK [2]. [1] https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/352144/tesla-drivers-cover-higher-annual-mileages-owners-any-other-car https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/352144/tesla-drivers-cov... [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/299031/fuel-types-of-new-cars-registered-in-the-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/299031/fuel-types-of-new...
  - Reason077 6y ago
    Or maybe it's "those drivers who can afford to buy a (long range) electric do, and those that can't buy diesel"? There's still a significant price gap between comparable diesels and electrics. Norway's experience (60%+ market share for electric vehicles) suggests that if the price is comparable, and charging is convenient enough, the majority of buyers will choose electric.

Presumably people whose use case would require frequent charging in places other than their home (or work) don't buy electric cars, so there's probably some selection bias here.

Reason077 6y ago

Here in the UK, Tesla owners drive more miles annually on average than owners of any other car brand[1], which suggests they don't have any qualms about driving long distances and charging away from home. (As another data point, I see Teslas regularly parked in my London neighbourhood outside homes that do not have any off-street parking/charging. So at least some EV owners get by without any home charging at all) [1] https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8263039/UK-Tesla-owners-miles-car-brands.html https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8263039/UK-...

donaltroddyn 6y ago
Auto Express seems to be the source of those figures, which show that diesel cars as a class have (slightly) higher average mileage than Teslas, and roughly 33% higher average mileage than full electrics as a class. Again, it seems like selection bias, in that those high-mileage drivers who can use electric do, and those that can't buy diesel. Presumably there is a cohort of diesel drivers who would switch to electric if they offered sufficient range or faster charging, especially as diesels outnumber electrics ~2.5:1 in the UK [2]. [1] https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/352144/tesla-drivers-cover-higher-annual-mileages-owners-any-other-car https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/352144/tesla-drivers-cov... [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/299031/fuel-types-of-new-cars-registered-in-the-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/299031/fuel-types-of-new...
- Reason077 6y ago
  Or maybe it's "those drivers who can afford to buy a (long range) electric do, and those that can't buy diesel"? There's still a significant price gap between comparable diesels and electrics. Norway's experience (60%+ market share for electric vehicles) suggests that if the price is comparable, and charging is convenient enough, the majority of buyers will choose electric.