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I would have thought better of Stack Overflow than this business speak.

abiogenesis 7y ago
They've been like this since Joel left and the new CEO stepped in. Obviously their mission is nothing but to increase their valuation by tenfold now. Edit: This is not my guess, it has actually been said by Joel Spolsky, the founder and the previous CEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMfxd9y0cMY&t=952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMfxd9y0cMY&t=952
- dehrmann 7y ago
  Hopefully they're careful going down this road. Remember SourceForce? Experts Exchange? If I were them, my secret (because what gets measured gets gamed) metric would be how many tech workers list their Stackoverflow profile on their resume/website/Linkedin. It's a proxy for reputation, and that's the thing they need to protect.
  - jaxn 7y ago
    That seems like a terrible thing to list on a resume to me.
    - dehrmann 7y ago
      I doubt recruiters would even look at it, but if you're trying to land your first job, it can signal areas you might already know. The interactions are also a lot like a job--how you ask questions and how you answer questions.
    - m_mueller 7y ago
      Why if I may asked? Non technical people don't care, and I've gotten recognition by some hiring engineers by it. One even started an interview with "I gotta thank you, your SO answer helped me out recently".
      - jonathankoren 7y ago
        As a hiring manager I can tell you the sad truth about this and github links. No one reads them. Seriously. No one reads them. There’s simply too many resumes to look at. Having it something extra to look at, and it’s cognitive load is a hell of a lot more than anything else, because now I’m supposed to understand some random code dropped in my lap, or whether some rando’s answers on SO are quality, or not. (Points just tell me about how quickly it was answered, not necessarily quality.) Finally, assuming I did all that work, now I have to compare this to someone that didn’t list it, because they don’t care enough about SO to create an account (raises hand), or simply have hobbies outside of coding. It’s easier — and fairer — to simply judge the resume based on the the actual resume, and then follow up with interview questions if appropriate.
        declnz 7y ago
        Disagree - this is "your sad truth", maybe yes. Personally I've looked at it, even if very briefly, almost every time it appears on candidate profiles. One of the most important traits I look for in mid or senior devs is the ability (and eagerness) to explain and teach complex concepts to people who don't have that expertise yet. Bonus points if they also do this in a rapid, friendly, and humble way themselves.
nickcox 7y ago
You haven't been paying attention then. Check out the ridiculous series of non-apologies over the Monica Cellio debacle. https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/340913/627733 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/340913/627733

They've been like this since Joel left and the new CEO stepped in. Obviously their mission is nothing but to increase their valuation by tenfold now. Edit: This is not my guess, it has actually been said by Joel Spolsky, the founder and the previous CEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMfxd9y0cMY&t=952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMfxd9y0cMY&t=952

dehrmann 7y ago
Hopefully they're careful going down this road. Remember SourceForce? Experts Exchange? If I were them, my secret (because what gets measured gets gamed) metric would be how many tech workers list their Stackoverflow profile on their resume/website/Linkedin. It's a proxy for reputation, and that's the thing they need to protect.
- jaxn 7y ago
  That seems like a terrible thing to list on a resume to me.
  - dehrmann 7y ago
    I doubt recruiters would even look at it, but if you're trying to land your first job, it can signal areas you might already know. The interactions are also a lot like a job--how you ask questions and how you answer questions.
  - m_mueller 7y ago
    Why if I may asked? Non technical people don't care, and I've gotten recognition by some hiring engineers by it. One even started an interview with "I gotta thank you, your SO answer helped me out recently".
    - jonathankoren 7y ago
      As a hiring manager I can tell you the sad truth about this and github links. No one reads them. Seriously. No one reads them. There’s simply too many resumes to look at. Having it something extra to look at, and it’s cognitive load is a hell of a lot more than anything else, because now I’m supposed to understand some random code dropped in my lap, or whether some rando’s answers on SO are quality, or not. (Points just tell me about how quickly it was answered, not necessarily quality.) Finally, assuming I did all that work, now I have to compare this to someone that didn’t list it, because they don’t care enough about SO to create an account (raises hand), or simply have hobbies outside of coding. It’s easier — and fairer — to simply judge the resume based on the the actual resume, and then follow up with interview questions if appropriate.
      - declnz 7y ago
        Disagree - this is "your sad truth", maybe yes. Personally I've looked at it, even if very briefly, almost every time it appears on candidate profiles. One of the most important traits I look for in mid or senior devs is the ability (and eagerness) to explain and teach complex concepts to people who don't have that expertise yet. Bonus points if they also do this in a rapid, friendly, and humble way themselves.

nickcox 7y ago

You haven't been paying attention then. Check out the ridiculous series of non-apologies over the Monica Cellio debacle. https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/340913/627733 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/340913/627733