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edit: deleted this chunk of my argument because as pointed out by dweekly Pew Research are already comparing in 2018 dollars. What matters is that U.S. middle-
by igravious 6y ago
edit: deleted this chunk of my argument because as pointed out by dweekly Pew Research are already comparing in 2018 dollars.
What matters is that U.S. middle-income share of aggregate income fell from 62% to 43% – is this not the usual measurement? This is what people mean by "the middle class is shrinking". It doesn't matter if the average middle-income has increased, what matters in this context is the overall purchasing power of the middle class.
Even adjusted for so-called inflation you have to wonder does your 2018 $ go as far as your 1970 $ ? How would we measure that? How about we look at household debt? According to this site “In 1983, the top 5 percent had 80 cents of debt for every dollar of income, while the remaining 95 percent had 60 cents for every dollar. By 2007, after decades in which an increasing share of income flowed to the top, the situation had reversed. The top 5 percent had 65 cents of debt for every dollar of income, while the remaining 95 percent had $1.40 in debt for every dollar. The situation remains skewed today.” https://tcf.org/content/commentary/graph-household-debt-and-middle-class-stagnation/?agreed=1 https://tcf.org/content/commentary/graph-household-debt-and-... – this suggests that a $ dollar does not go as far today and that today maintain a middle-income lifestyle the average family has to go deeper into debt.
( You'll note that according to the New York Fed total household debt has ballooned from a fraction of a trillion to over fourteen trillion from the '60s to the 2010's https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff_reports/sr882.pdf https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff... )
- dweekly 6y ago1. the Pew linked source you give shows numbers in constant 2018 (inflation adjusted) dollars. You seem to be saying in your comment here that the median family in 1970 was making $58,700 in 1970 dollars. It was $9,870 in 1970 dollars per the US Census: https://www.census.gov/library/publications/1971/demo/p60-78.html https://www.census.gov/library/publications/1971/demo/p60-78... 2: It's interesting to look at debt, but net worth gives a more complete picture as larger assets can offset larger debts. On this front things we're looking pretty rosy for the median US household up until 2007, when the Great Recession roughly halved household net worth and hasn't seen a recovery since: https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-median-net-worth-of-us-households-over-time-has-gone-nowhere/ https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-median-net-worth-of-us-... - the "good news" is that things aren't worse than where they were in the 60's in inflation-adjusted terms. The terrible news is the truly astonishing racial gaps in household median net worth: https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-fact/median-value-wealth-race-ff03112019 https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-fact/median-value-wea...
- igravious 6y agoYes of course, thanks. Hope you don't mind but I've changed my comment to correct my gross error. I still think it's odd to argue that the middle class on aggregate are doing better when clearly they are not.