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I was surprised that I couldn't find a wikipedia page for my favorite: "Fish fish fish eat eat eat."
by sah 18y ago
I was surprised that I couldn't find a wikipedia page for my favorite: "Fish fish fish eat eat eat."
- daniel-cussen 18y agoWhat does that mean?
- hugh 18y agoI don't get it. I can't see any way to make "eat" anything other than a verb, and as such I can't see any way to parse it.
- emmett 18y agoFish [that] fish eat [habitually] eat [food].
- hugh 18y agoOK, that explains fish fish eat eat, but what about fish fish fish eat eat eat? (Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd be typing today.)
- emmett 18y agoJust extend it. (Fish [that] (fish [that] fish [habitually] eat) [habitually] eat) [habitually] eat [food]. Fish fish fish fish fish eat eat eat eat eat!
- gruseom 18y agoI don't think English works this way. The Buffalo and have/had examples are clearly valid (if extreme) sentences and their meaning leaps out once you see the trick. "Fish fish eat eat" does too, and so would "Fish fish eat eat fish". But you can't arbitrarily nest these clauses, and "fish fish fish eat eat eat" doesn't click for me. The suggested analogy, "Mice cats dogs chase eat sleep", seems accurate as an analogy because it's invalid in the same way; that is, "Cats dog chase eat" is clearly ok, but the next step of nesting is not. It would be interesting to pin down the reason.
- emmett 18y agoI agree that it's no longer english as she's spoke, but it is ultimately comprehensible with difficulty. It's harder to unpack deeply nested clauses; human beings have trouble thinking on more than one levelf of the stack at the same time. Whether that counts as grammatically correct is a matter of definitions; I'd say it does, but it hardly matters.
- hugh 18y agoEven with the interspersed words I still can't make sense of it. Unlike, say, buffalo [that habitually] buffalo buffalo [habitually] buffalo buffalo [that habitually] buffalo buffalo.
- sah 18y agoThere are fish that habitually eat which are eaten by fish that are in turn eaten by other fish. So, fish eat. Even fish [that] fish eat [have to] eat. And fish eat fish that eat fish that eat. Also try it with varying nouns and verbs: Mice cats dogs chase eat sleep. (Dogs chase cats that eat mice that sleep.) I like it because it seems to exploit a very low maximum stack depth in human sentence parsing.