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I use it. It's extremely easy to setup your own server and I got mine running in about 30 minutes following their instructions. Aside from issues around key exc

I use it. It's extremely easy to setup your own server and I got mine running in about 30 minutes following their instructions. Aside from issues around key exchange in earlier versions, it's been great and on par with Discord or Slack, and with similar reliability. I've been told the apps (Android/iOS) aren't as good as the Desktop version by coworkers.

Arathorn 6y ago
Interesting - Riot is actually four entirely different codebases: Riot Web/Desktop (JS/TS/React), Riot iOS (ObjC/Swift), RiotX Android (Kotlin) and Riot Android (obsolete, Java). Riot iOS has been a bit under resourced over the last few years, but other than some jank it's a decent native app, albeit trailing behind Desktop a bit. RiotX meanwhile is of very similar quality to Desktop, albeit beta (but exiting next month, hopefully). Finally, Riot Android is abandoned now and we'll replace it with RiotX when RiotX is ready. Many folks' bad impression of Riot on mobile is due to Riot Android having been abandoned in favour of RiotX or the last year - such is the cost of a rewrite :/
- rpm91 6y ago
  Do you know why the decision was made to rewrite rather than do an incremental migration, given the increased pain to users? I have some guesses from looking at the codebase, but I'd love to know the actual answer.
  - Arathorn 6y ago
    The old app had bad layering, and no explicit storage layer. We wanted to experiment with different storage layers, use rx for data flow, switch from java to kotlin, and use all the latest androidx/jetpack best practices. This amounted to a whole new app, and it was easier to start from scratch, despite the disruption to users.
    - cycomanic 6y ago
      I have to say riotx is miles ahead of riot android. If only it could do voice and video yet. For desktop I have to say riot has been really on and off. In particular voice/video calls are hit and miss. Sometimes it rings but one can't pick up, sometimes it just does not ring. I actually have been experimenting with some of the alternative clients (I particularly like nheko reborn) unfortunately non do voice video yet.
      - Arathorn 6y ago
        the 1:1 voip in Matrix has never been properly fleshed out. we’re planning to fix this over the next few months however.

Arathorn 6y ago

Interesting - Riot is actually four entirely different codebases: Riot Web/Desktop (JS/TS/React), Riot iOS (ObjC/Swift), RiotX Android (Kotlin) and Riot Android (obsolete, Java). Riot iOS has been a bit under resourced over the last few years, but other than some jank it's a decent native app, albeit trailing behind Desktop a bit. RiotX meanwhile is of very similar quality to Desktop, albeit beta (but exiting next month, hopefully). Finally, Riot Android is abandoned now and we'll replace it with RiotX when RiotX is ready. Many folks' bad impression of Riot on mobile is due to Riot Android having been abandoned in favour of RiotX or the last year - such is the cost of a rewrite :/

rpm91 6y ago
Do you know why the decision was made to rewrite rather than do an incremental migration, given the increased pain to users? I have some guesses from looking at the codebase, but I'd love to know the actual answer.
- Arathorn 6y ago
  The old app had bad layering, and no explicit storage layer. We wanted to experiment with different storage layers, use rx for data flow, switch from java to kotlin, and use all the latest androidx/jetpack best practices. This amounted to a whole new app, and it was easier to start from scratch, despite the disruption to users.
  - cycomanic 6y ago
    I have to say riotx is miles ahead of riot android. If only it could do voice and video yet. For desktop I have to say riot has been really on and off. In particular voice/video calls are hit and miss. Sometimes it rings but one can't pick up, sometimes it just does not ring. I actually have been experimenting with some of the alternative clients (I particularly like nheko reborn) unfortunately non do voice video yet.
    - Arathorn 6y ago
      the 1:1 voip in Matrix has never been properly fleshed out. we’re planning to fix this over the next few months however.