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Outside of the text editor, I think native emacs keybindings like (C-n, C-p, C-a, C-e, C-k) on OSX are great and I hope they never get rid of them.

antipaul 6y ago
Please never get rid of this As a user of these key binding in both Emacs and macOS, it’d be worse than cutting off an arm if this went away
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
  Or next-paragraph/last-paragraph movement. Or all movement combined with prefixes. I regularly do C-u C-u C-p to jump sixteen lines backwards. Or add another prefix and it's 64 lines. Separately, macros, yea! Macros with regexes FTW! The counter you can use in macros - occasionally very useful! M-x occur! Dired which can search a whole directory tree of file contents for a regexp! So much more. Only thing worse than emacs interface is not having emacs at all.
- spudlyo 6y ago
  While it's nice that macOS has this out-of-the-box, you can make all the key-bindings to their macOS equivelants using Karabiner-Elements. If it did go away, we'd be fine.
- ledauphin 6y ago
  easily 50% of my "loyalty" to Macs is these built in shortcuts alone.
itchynosedev 6y ago
I agree! You know what takes it to the next level? Sticky keys! Accessibility feature in macos where modal / control keys will "stick" for the next keypress (non-modal / control) and then release. Double tap will stick it for the duration until the next tap on the same key. Essentialy, double tap control key and move around with n and p keys, kill with k, move more, yank somewhere else with y. All without touching control! But there's more, you can save the buffer with x followed by s press. It takes a while to get used to but saves you awkward wrist moves. I guess it's closer to modal editing in vi, just not as advanced.
- gmfawcett 6y ago
  Your suggestion sounds a little bit like Emacs' god-mode: https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode
  - pkulak 6y ago
    Or evil mode.
kickingvegas 6y ago
FWIW, native emacs keybindings are there on iPadOS and with the ability to swap caps and control in 13.4, life is sweet.
namelosw 6y ago
So true. It's a major thing that stops me from migrating to Linux. Every time I work with Linux or Windows, when I open a Chrome tab and I want to go down to a history completion, I hit C-n multiple times and it ends up with many new windows...

antipaul 6y ago

Please never get rid of this As a user of these key binding in both Emacs and macOS, it’d be worse than cutting off an arm if this went away

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
Or next-paragraph/last-paragraph movement. Or all movement combined with prefixes. I regularly do C-u C-u C-p to jump sixteen lines backwards. Or add another prefix and it's 64 lines. Separately, macros, yea! Macros with regexes FTW! The counter you can use in macros - occasionally very useful! M-x occur! Dired which can search a whole directory tree of file contents for a regexp! So much more. Only thing worse than emacs interface is not having emacs at all.
spudlyo 6y ago
While it's nice that macOS has this out-of-the-box, you can make all the key-bindings to their macOS equivelants using Karabiner-Elements. If it did go away, we'd be fine.
ledauphin 6y ago
easily 50% of my "loyalty" to Macs is these built in shortcuts alone.

itchynosedev 6y ago

I agree! You know what takes it to the next level? Sticky keys! Accessibility feature in macos where modal / control keys will "stick" for the next keypress (non-modal / control) and then release. Double tap will stick it for the duration until the next tap on the same key. Essentialy, double tap control key and move around with n and p keys, kill with k, move more, yank somewhere else with y. All without touching control! But there's more, you can save the buffer with x followed by s press. It takes a while to get used to but saves you awkward wrist moves. I guess it's closer to modal editing in vi, just not as advanced.

gmfawcett 6y ago
Your suggestion sounds a little bit like Emacs' god-mode: https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode
- pkulak 6y ago
  Or evil mode.

kickingvegas 6y ago

FWIW, native emacs keybindings are there on iPadOS and with the ability to swap caps and control in 13.4, life is sweet.

namelosw 6y ago

So true. It's a major thing that stops me from migrating to Linux. Every time I work with Linux or Windows, when I open a Chrome tab and I want to go down to a history completion, I hit C-n multiple times and it ends up with many new windows...