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One of the advantages ex-googlers cite as a reason for joining facebook is that facebook is much faster at deploying new things. Google has been nortiously slo

One of the advantages ex-googlers cite as a reason for joining facebook is that facebook is much faster at deploying new things. Google has been nortiously slow with most things. As per the windows comparison, Microsoft releases updates for their windows products almost daily so I dont see much difference.

cryptoz 16y ago
> Microsoft releases updates for their windows products almost daily so I dont see much difference. Sure, but these are minor updates. Look at the major updates. Windows Vista was developed for about 5 years in secret, and when it was eventually released to the world it was a disaster. To keep with the OS comparison, Google has been releasing major OS upgrades every 6 months - 1 year. Android is moving so much faster than Windows or even WP7 and is a huge part of why it's successful. In the time that WP7 has been out (five months? ish?) there have been 0 updates to most phones; maybe a few phones got the small update-to-the-updater. With that same period of time Google has announced and released a new Android version.
- oldstrangers 16y ago
  Yes, but you compared google adding a new link to their search results to Microsoft releasing new versions of windows. That comparison doesnt make sense; however, the small updates Microsoft makes daily is a valid comparison. You're off on a different argument now, regardless.
  - cryptoz 16y ago
    I was trying to generalize a bit with their strategies rather than make specific one-to-one comparisons. When Google rolls out a search results page change, potentially hundreds of millions of people see the effect immediately. When Microsoft pushes updates to Windows, there is rarely new functionality added and few people actually notice day to day. Most definitely not all Windows installations get the updates daily (whatever happened to Patch Tuesday? Does MS actually push out daily updates to their customers? I'd be very impressed if this is true). Anyway, all I was really trying to say is that Google is, in general, faster to react to market changes, faster to push updates, and faster in developing new features when compared to Microsoft. And that's one of their advantages. Sorry if my specific examples became the primary discussion here, I really only meant the Windows comparison to be an example showing a larger strategy.
    - kenjackson 16y ago
      But Bing does new features at a pace on par, if not faster, than Google search. It might be the case that different types of products have different release cycles. Not strictly though... IE is way slower than Chrome to rev.
      - chc 16y ago
        I've always had the impression that's because the IE team is kind of paralyzed by a fear of breaking the Web.
Daniel14 16y ago
Google hires more people per week than left google to join facebook, ever. So I don't think slow decisions are that big of a problem at Google, and seeing their recent moves I think they're pretty determined at staying the agile company easy to be when you're small..
- kmavm 16y ago
  Microsoft also hires more people per week than have left Microsoft to join Facebook, ever.

cryptoz 16y ago

> Microsoft releases updates for their windows products almost daily so I dont see much difference. Sure, but these are minor updates. Look at the major updates. Windows Vista was developed for about 5 years in secret, and when it was eventually released to the world it was a disaster. To keep with the OS comparison, Google has been releasing major OS upgrades every 6 months - 1 year. Android is moving so much faster than Windows or even WP7 and is a huge part of why it's successful. In the time that WP7 has been out (five months? ish?) there have been 0 updates to most phones; maybe a few phones got the small update-to-the-updater. With that same period of time Google has announced and released a new Android version.

oldstrangers 16y ago
Yes, but you compared google adding a new link to their search results to Microsoft releasing new versions of windows. That comparison doesnt make sense; however, the small updates Microsoft makes daily is a valid comparison. You're off on a different argument now, regardless.
- cryptoz 16y ago
  I was trying to generalize a bit with their strategies rather than make specific one-to-one comparisons. When Google rolls out a search results page change, potentially hundreds of millions of people see the effect immediately. When Microsoft pushes updates to Windows, there is rarely new functionality added and few people actually notice day to day. Most definitely not all Windows installations get the updates daily (whatever happened to Patch Tuesday? Does MS actually push out daily updates to their customers? I'd be very impressed if this is true). Anyway, all I was really trying to say is that Google is, in general, faster to react to market changes, faster to push updates, and faster in developing new features when compared to Microsoft. And that's one of their advantages. Sorry if my specific examples became the primary discussion here, I really only meant the Windows comparison to be an example showing a larger strategy.
  - kenjackson 16y ago
    But Bing does new features at a pace on par, if not faster, than Google search. It might be the case that different types of products have different release cycles. Not strictly though... IE is way slower than Chrome to rev.
    - chc 16y ago
      I've always had the impression that's because the IE team is kind of paralyzed by a fear of breaking the Web.

Daniel14 16y ago

Google hires more people per week than left google to join facebook, ever. So I don't think slow decisions are that big of a problem at Google, and seeing their recent moves I think they're pretty determined at staying the agile company easy to be when you're small..

kmavm 16y ago
Microsoft also hires more people per week than have left Microsoft to join Facebook, ever.