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> None of those things require Google per se And it never did because it was never Google, it's Sidewalk Labs, which is a separate Alphabet company who's whole

> None of those things require Google per se And it never did because it was never Google, it's Sidewalk Labs, which is a separate Alphabet company who's whole job is exactly to research and develop such plans. > Ultimately they require the community itself to take it upon themselves to do it I really dislike this argument. "We don't need AMP to make sites fast, webdevs can just spend time hand optimizing their sites themselves". Then you wait years and 95% of websites are still slow and bloated. Every single city and community has had the power to do this for years yet there are very few who have actually creating anything like it. Just because it's doable doesn't mean it'll happen without some incentive and help. > economic benefit to leaving peoples wealth in their communities instead of extracting it into silos Expect a lot of these create more value and wealth within the communities than they take. People love to blame tech companies, but without food delivery services for example, most restaurants would have no business right now. Google Maps and these other services all bring orders of magnitude more value to a city than they "extract into silos".

irieid9 6y ago
Thank you for the banal correction of Google vs Alphabet And comparing website dev to community planning And ignoring the argument that communities are stuck focusing on profit generation which is acting as a block on their agency to collectively improve their communities Did you actually read the post or get stuck on the alphabet not google part and fill in the rest of the post with non sequitur? Food delivery existed before “tech companies” I’m not sure you are living on Earth. You do know society existed before the year 2000, yes? We’re ridiculing tech companies for capturing our agency. It has nothing to do with their technology but the social aspects of curving the masses attention to profit generating fiefdom a minority control Religion and monarchy before that operated on basically the same pattern in the abstract We don’t talk of sky wizard but we do talk of appropriate behavior that aligns with economics models of men paid a lot to make those economics models. We rejected God but replaced him godly men of industry. Right back to literal fetishizing a minority of real men like they’re kings. Oh and look at what’s up in the Oval Office. Coincidence? The bias is deep in the limbic brain which heavily influences our agency response It’s why I don’t curate an online identity. I don’t need to fetishize some profile that goes away if the servers shut down Stop importing other peoples semantic objects and applying your agency to their study and care. We still need tech but we don’t need Google Invent your own
- ehsankia 6y ago
  > Food delivery existed before “tech companies” Per-company delivery is not sustainable for anything else than Pizza and a few other fast food places. There was no centralized system like food deliveries. Also, not only is it keeping restaurants alive, it is also providing jobs to many drivers. > You do know society existed before the year 2000, yes? Yes, I remember having to pull out my paper map to go anywhere, having to go to video stores to get VHS tapes and not being able to go anywhere without a car. So much more freedom!
  - mdkrkeo9 6y ago
    Jobs, restaurants, etc, arbitrary goals of a society. Not legal obligations at all Freedom from having my agency bent towards pampering the rich while my poorer family can’t pay rent and goto a doctor is the freedom I’m after Freedom is a word. The definition is flexible. Your bouncing around the world easy peasy and not having to learn to cook is not an obligation everyone has to enable through grand scale effort Especially when the vast majority doing the work can’t afford it themselves So much freedom for them! being your bellhop every day Omg a paper map and a first world problems of VHS! Better silo the masses cash to produce iPhones for this burdened creature (don’t forget to charge margins that enable you to buy new a Ferrari every day for life, make them design and build it and pay you for the privilege) This is some disingenuous bullshit. The western world, ladies and gentlemen. Yesterday’s creature comforts are today’s burdens of invention. Omg!

irieid9 6y ago

Thank you for the banal correction of Google vs Alphabet And comparing website dev to community planning And ignoring the argument that communities are stuck focusing on profit generation which is acting as a block on their agency to collectively improve their communities Did you actually read the post or get stuck on the alphabet not google part and fill in the rest of the post with non sequitur? Food delivery existed before “tech companies” I’m not sure you are living on Earth. You do know society existed before the year 2000, yes? We’re ridiculing tech companies for capturing our agency. It has nothing to do with their technology but the social aspects of curving the masses attention to profit generating fiefdom a minority control Religion and monarchy before that operated on basically the same pattern in the abstract We don’t talk of sky wizard but we do talk of appropriate behavior that aligns with economics models of men paid a lot to make those economics models. We rejected God but replaced him godly men of industry. Right back to literal fetishizing a minority of real men like they’re kings. Oh and look at what’s up in the Oval Office. Coincidence? The bias is deep in the limbic brain which heavily influences our agency response It’s why I don’t curate an online identity. I don’t need to fetishize some profile that goes away if the servers shut down Stop importing other peoples semantic objects and applying your agency to their study and care. We still need tech but we don’t need Google Invent your own

ehsankia 6y ago
> Food delivery existed before “tech companies” Per-company delivery is not sustainable for anything else than Pizza and a few other fast food places. There was no centralized system like food deliveries. Also, not only is it keeping restaurants alive, it is also providing jobs to many drivers. > You do know society existed before the year 2000, yes? Yes, I remember having to pull out my paper map to go anywhere, having to go to video stores to get VHS tapes and not being able to go anywhere without a car. So much more freedom!
- mdkrkeo9 6y ago
  Jobs, restaurants, etc, arbitrary goals of a society. Not legal obligations at all Freedom from having my agency bent towards pampering the rich while my poorer family can’t pay rent and goto a doctor is the freedom I’m after Freedom is a word. The definition is flexible. Your bouncing around the world easy peasy and not having to learn to cook is not an obligation everyone has to enable through grand scale effort Especially when the vast majority doing the work can’t afford it themselves So much freedom for them! being your bellhop every day Omg a paper map and a first world problems of VHS! Better silo the masses cash to produce iPhones for this burdened creature (don’t forget to charge margins that enable you to buy new a Ferrari every day for life, make them design and build it and pay you for the privilege) This is some disingenuous bullshit. The western world, ladies and gentlemen. Yesterday’s creature comforts are today’s burdens of invention. Omg!