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My understanding is that the Thinkpad line is a bit segmented from the rest of the company. As a result, those poor decisions haven't effected the Thinkpad line

My understanding is that the Thinkpad line is a bit segmented from the rest of the company. As a result, those poor decisions haven't effected the Thinkpad line. It helps also that I immediately switch everything over to Linux I do understanding that it's entirely feasible for them to rootkit Linux from the BIOS and install malware onto their Thinkpads but I just haven't seen it happen yet

igneo676 6y ago
For what it's worth, I also own quite a few of their older laptop lines (Mainly X230's) and I've been slowly flashing Coreboot onto them I know that's not feasible for their newer lines, which I also own
josteink 6y ago
> I do understanding that it's entirely feasible for them to rootkit Linux from the BIOS and install malware onto their Thinkpads but I just haven't seen it happen yet It’s not actually, because the mechanism which allows a vendor to provide “drivers” via UEFI is used by Windows only and nobody else. Windows exclusively is the target of such UEFI abuse. Lenovo can put as much garbage and bloatware they want in the relevant UEFI firmware-sections, and Linux will simply ignore it, like it always have. No root-kit will be triggered. As a Linux-user you are actually 100% immune against this abuse. As a ThinkPad-owner doubly so, since this major fuck-up only affected budget/non-Thinkpad product-lines.
aesh2Xa1 6y ago
Hm, it was a problem on the professional ThinkPad line as well. https://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html?m=1 https://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html?m...
- Stratoscope 6y ago
  Naw, that story is ridiculous. One person bought two "refurbished" ThinkPads from IBM and claims they found some stuff on them. Show me one example - any example - of Lenovo installing any of this kind of stuff on a factory fresh ThinkPad, and then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, I suggest ignoring biased and axe-grinding sources like "thehackernews".

igneo676 6y ago

For what it's worth, I also own quite a few of their older laptop lines (Mainly X230's) and I've been slowly flashing Coreboot onto them I know that's not feasible for their newer lines, which I also own

josteink 6y ago

> I do understanding that it's entirely feasible for them to rootkit Linux from the BIOS and install malware onto their Thinkpads but I just haven't seen it happen yet It’s not actually, because the mechanism which allows a vendor to provide “drivers” via UEFI is used by Windows only and nobody else. Windows exclusively is the target of such UEFI abuse. Lenovo can put as much garbage and bloatware they want in the relevant UEFI firmware-sections, and Linux will simply ignore it, like it always have. No root-kit will be triggered. As a Linux-user you are actually 100% immune against this abuse. As a ThinkPad-owner doubly so, since this major fuck-up only affected budget/non-Thinkpad product-lines.

aesh2Xa1 6y ago

Hm, it was a problem on the professional ThinkPad line as well. https://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html?m=1 https://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html?m...

Stratoscope 6y ago
Naw, that story is ridiculous. One person bought two "refurbished" ThinkPads from IBM and claims they found some stuff on them. Show me one example - any example - of Lenovo installing any of this kind of stuff on a factory fresh ThinkPad, and then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, I suggest ignoring biased and axe-grinding sources like "thehackernews".