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It is funny that Zoom was one of the companies that I flagged in my head as the worst (or rather, most dangerous) up-and-coming tech company and I considered Ke
by mikorym 6y ago
It is funny that Zoom was one of the companies that I flagged in my head as the worst (or rather, most dangerous) up-and-coming tech company and I considered Keybase one of the most promising up-and-coming tech companies.
Keybase solves a (to me) nontrivial problem: How to bring private keys into social media. Just a silly example: You don't use the same private-public key exchange in Whatsapp as you would use for your emails, or to sign your packages. It's a bit of the now infamous Dropbox situation: Most people can sign things with private keys and properly keep track of it, but they don't get around to doing it. It's only critical cases where the use is common (like signing packages). It took a long time even for HTTPS to become standard practise, though I guess the situation with your browser is a bit different.
- freshhawk 6y agoYes, this was exactly how I mentally categorized these two companies as well. My first reaction was: it can't be that keybase can it? Huh, well maybe I'd sell my principles for that much money too, oh well. Maybe some keybase employee will end up being a whistleblower sometime soon though.
- mirimir 6y agoWell, they are pitching this as bringing secure stuff to the masses. So it's arguably not all that inconsistent with what Chris etc have been saying about Keybase.
- freshhawk 6y agoHonestly if at this point Zoom hasn't lost all credibility in your eyes I don't know what to say. Zoom already has end to end encryption according to some of their other press releases and public statements (we know they don't), so why on earth would you believe this one?
- mirimir 6y agoI guess that it's because I liked Chris and his team, and so I'm trying to be generous.
- zamalek 6y ago> Zoom was one of the companies that I flagged in my head as the worst [...] Keybase one of the most promising Hear hear. It really is an absurd world we live in, and I had a good chuckle about that - just before I deleted my Keybase account.
- derex 6y agoCan you elaborate on what concerns you so much that it warrants deleting your account right upon hearing the news?
- zamalek 6y agoZoom is, or was, collecting a list of running applications on machines. Keybase requires that you run it on multiple devices for security. It would be reasonable to expect that Zoom would love to embed such data harvesting in the Keybase client.
- nebulous1 6y agoDo you have a reference for this? Were they confirmed to be sending the info to the server? I would note that it wouldn't be uncommon for a program like zoom to have the relevant api calls in it to allow the user share a specific app with the conference call.
- zamalek 6y agoYes. https://www.howtogeek.com/664624/does-zoom-really-monitor-which-apps-youre-using-on-a-call/ https://www.howtogeek.com/664624/does-zoom-really-monitor-wh...
- anikdas 6y agoThis article does not say if Zoom tracks the other running application in your PC. It just detects whether the Zoom application is in focus.
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- SujiYan 6y agoHave a try of Maskbook.com , ran by our team. I believed this actually solve this problem in a more elegant way.
- notpushkin 6y agoI thought what I’d do was, I’d pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. I don't quite get the purpose though, why would I post something in public only for a group of people to be able to read it? Why not post it in a private chat then (encrypted, naturally)?