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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts." -Mark Twain

by cezary 16y ago

dmm 16y ago
Living in the US, it's easy to travel quite a bit without needing a passport.
- cezary 16y ago
  I live in the US, but there's a difference between traveling within the borders of your country and traveling abroad and experiencing new cultures.
  - anamax 16y ago
    If you think that the US is a single culture, you need to get out more. Yes, the coastal cities appear to have the same culture, but there's a lot more to the US. And, even in the coastal cities, there are multiple cultures.
    - cezary 16y ago
      If visiting another city or state is culturally awakening to you, maybe you're the one that needs to get out more. The difference between countries is always greater than that between cities. LA to NYC is not the same as NYC to London. Even then you're still speaking the same language. How would you deal with a language barrier? Different religions? Different laws? You'll never get the perspective of an immigrant in the US, but you would being a foreigner in another country.
      - anamax 16y ago
        > If visiting another city or state is culturally awakening to you, maybe you're the one that needs to get out more. I'll be happy to compare passports. Let's start with how many months you have lived outside the US. (I've have three months in Europe, plus trips. I also have trips to the Philippines, Fiji, Equador, and others.) And, since you're claiming that the US is culturally uniform, where in the US have you lived? If the SF bay area, what parts of Oakland, SJ and PA have you experienced? (No, getting ribs at Everett and Jones doesn't count.) I've lived in both EPA and black Oakland, in addition to "fly over country". I've even done farm labor (and my father did it as a migrant). > Even then you're still speaking the same language. Interestingly enough, I referred to places in the US where English is not the dominant language.
        cezary 16y ago
        Not sure how time spent across borders really matters, but I'm foreign born and have spent years outside the US. I'm currently in Chicago and have driven to Florida, New York, Colorado, Nevada and have gone north and south of the border. I frequently visit relatives that live in rural parts of Iowa and Indiana. My point still stands, you won't find as large a cultural gap as you would traveling to another country. > Interestingly enough, I referred to places in the US where English is not the dominant language. Of course you'll find small populations of foreign speaking people in the US, just as you would in any country but you're missing the point. You can't compare going to Chinatown with actually going to China, that's ridiculous.

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts." -Mark Twain

by cezary 16y ago

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts." -Mark Twain

dmm 16y ago

Living in the US, it's easy to travel quite a bit without needing a passport.

cezary 16y ago
I live in the US, but there's a difference between traveling within the borders of your country and traveling abroad and experiencing new cultures.
- anamax 16y ago
  If you think that the US is a single culture, you need to get out more. Yes, the coastal cities appear to have the same culture, but there's a lot more to the US. And, even in the coastal cities, there are multiple cultures.
  - cezary 16y ago
    If visiting another city or state is culturally awakening to you, maybe you're the one that needs to get out more. The difference between countries is always greater than that between cities. LA to NYC is not the same as NYC to London. Even then you're still speaking the same language. How would you deal with a language barrier? Different religions? Different laws? You'll never get the perspective of an immigrant in the US, but you would being a foreigner in another country.
    - anamax 16y ago
      > If visiting another city or state is culturally awakening to you, maybe you're the one that needs to get out more. I'll be happy to compare passports. Let's start with how many months you have lived outside the US. (I've have three months in Europe, plus trips. I also have trips to the Philippines, Fiji, Equador, and others.) And, since you're claiming that the US is culturally uniform, where in the US have you lived? If the SF bay area, what parts of Oakland, SJ and PA have you experienced? (No, getting ribs at Everett and Jones doesn't count.) I've lived in both EPA and black Oakland, in addition to "fly over country". I've even done farm labor (and my father did it as a migrant). > Even then you're still speaking the same language. Interestingly enough, I referred to places in the US where English is not the dominant language.
      - cezary 16y ago
        Not sure how time spent across borders really matters, but I'm foreign born and have spent years outside the US. I'm currently in Chicago and have driven to Florida, New York, Colorado, Nevada and have gone north and south of the border. I frequently visit relatives that live in rural parts of Iowa and Indiana. My point still stands, you won't find as large a cultural gap as you would traveling to another country. > Interestingly enough, I referred to places in the US where English is not the dominant language. Of course you'll find small populations of foreign speaking people in the US, just as you would in any country but you're missing the point. You can't compare going to Chinatown with actually going to China, that's ridiculous.