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Got some major red pilling for you on corona virus. As you are probably aware, there's several corona type viruses that infect humans, one is covid-19. You kn

Got some major red pilling for you on corona virus. As you are probably aware, there's several corona type viruses that infect humans, one is covid-19. You know what else is a corona virus? About 20% of the common cold. After centuries of fighting the common cold, what are the odds we'll figure out a vaccine for this novel corona virus within the next year? Probably close to zero. Maybe with all of this extra attention, something might get done, but it would honestly be a miracle. So any plans about reopening that involve a vaccine are out the door. Next, let's talk about any plans that involve "testing" as part of the plan to reopen. How much testing would you need? And what kind of testing would you need? Remember, you're not in a hospital, you're just a person who is trying to go back to work or into a grocery store. First, there's a kind of test that takes 3 days to turn around. That's useless, because in that 3 days you've gone around and infected tons of other people. Second there's the tests that take 5 minutes to turn around. Okay, that's great. So you take that test, and you're negative. Perfect. You're allowed to buy groceries today. What about tomorrow? Or the next day? How many tests would we need to make this really work? And how many of that type of test are reasonably available within the next 6 months? It's not going to happen. So any plans about "testing our way out of this" are out the door. What does this mean? Basically there's some limit of economic destruction that is going to be worse than the virus. Nobody can predict exactly what that is. Is it closing everything for 6 weeks? 3 months? No one knows. The hard truth is we're just going to have to eat it, and by eat it I mean take a lot of deaths. Hopefully in a way that doesn't overload our hospitals. What will really get your goat is realizing that public leadership has known that testing and vaccine wasn't going to work since very early on. And we've just been keeping hope alive based on lies and magic thoughts.

AnimalMuppet 7y ago
20% of the cold is not one corona virus; it's several. A vaccine for the cold would have to handle most of them, along with the other 80% that are noroviruses. Vaccinating against one strain of the cold doesn't do you much good when there are maybe 100 of them. Covid-19, on the other hand, is a much simpler target, just because it's one target. (Yeah, they're talking about different strains emerging. I don't know if they have drifted too far to be covered by one vaccine, though. Even if they have, three to five strains is still much simpler than the cold.) So there is more hope for a vaccine than you are saying. (That doesn't mean that I think we're going to see one next week. Maybe not even this year.) As for testing: We either need to test everyone, then quarantine everyone who's sick and trace their contacts, or else we need to test everybody, frequently. I don't see either of those happening very soon.
- Consultant32452 7y ago
  For testing, are you suggesting we should execute 300+ million tests within a very short window (like a few days short window), and then quarantine the sick? Do you believe we have the testing resources to accomplish that? Do you believe we can lock our borders down tight enough to not let more infection in? How will you manage to execute such tests without getting everyone to gather in big testing facilities which will surely infect some of the people who tested negative? Try to play out the logistics of this in your mind for how we'd really accomplish this in the real world. It's not real any time soon. The absolute best case scenario by Fauci for a vaccine was 1 year. Let's assume even that miracle occurs. Do you really believe shutting down the economy for a year is feasible without a collapse of civilization as we know it? Then you have the same logistical problem of making and delivering this vaccine to literally billions of people. It's technically doable, but not in any kind of short time frame. I'm sorry, but it's just not real, and it never was.
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    You seem to have misunderstood me. This leads to you vehemently arguing against something that is not my position. I said that this is what it would take in order for testing to work. I didn't say that I thought it was doable; in fact, I think it is not. As for a vaccine, I think that one is possible, but not certain, and not immediate. And I said so, rather plainly.
    - Consultant32452 7y ago
      Yes, apologies. I missed the very last bit of your OP, "I don't see either of those happening very soon."

AnimalMuppet 7y ago

20% of the cold is not one corona virus; it's several. A vaccine for the cold would have to handle most of them, along with the other 80% that are noroviruses. Vaccinating against one strain of the cold doesn't do you much good when there are maybe 100 of them. Covid-19, on the other hand, is a much simpler target, just because it's one target. (Yeah, they're talking about different strains emerging. I don't know if they have drifted too far to be covered by one vaccine, though. Even if they have, three to five strains is still much simpler than the cold.) So there is more hope for a vaccine than you are saying. (That doesn't mean that I think we're going to see one next week. Maybe not even this year.) As for testing: We either need to test everyone, then quarantine everyone who's sick and trace their contacts, or else we need to test everybody, frequently. I don't see either of those happening very soon.

Consultant32452 7y ago
For testing, are you suggesting we should execute 300+ million tests within a very short window (like a few days short window), and then quarantine the sick? Do you believe we have the testing resources to accomplish that? Do you believe we can lock our borders down tight enough to not let more infection in? How will you manage to execute such tests without getting everyone to gather in big testing facilities which will surely infect some of the people who tested negative? Try to play out the logistics of this in your mind for how we'd really accomplish this in the real world. It's not real any time soon. The absolute best case scenario by Fauci for a vaccine was 1 year. Let's assume even that miracle occurs. Do you really believe shutting down the economy for a year is feasible without a collapse of civilization as we know it? Then you have the same logistical problem of making and delivering this vaccine to literally billions of people. It's technically doable, but not in any kind of short time frame. I'm sorry, but it's just not real, and it never was.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  You seem to have misunderstood me. This leads to you vehemently arguing against something that is not my position. I said that this is what it would take in order for testing to work. I didn't say that I thought it was doable; in fact, I think it is not. As for a vaccine, I think that one is possible, but not certain, and not immediate. And I said so, rather plainly.
  - Consultant32452 7y ago
    Yes, apologies. I missed the very last bit of your OP, "I don't see either of those happening very soon."