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It's easy to say we should just stay in lockdown until things are manageable when you have a job that allows you to work from home. I have several friends who

It's easy to say we should just stay in lockdown until things are manageable when you have a job that allows you to work from home. I have several friends who are directly impacted by this. Two of them work at small businesses that will shut down in a couple of months. I have one that has no income because he lost his waiter job and supply teaching job at the same time. I have some friends that are suffering from mental health issues. One person I know is living 5 people in a one bedroom apartment. This is a very hard, almost impossible situation, so don't be so judgemental against people that want to end the lockdown. I fully understand why they want to, because realistically there's no end in sight and even 2 months is a very long time for people to do nothing and starve in their apartments for both food/money and interaction.

caseysoftware 6y ago
^ This Without exception, everyone I've seen or heard of advocating for continuing the lockdowns/shelter in place have remote-friendly jobs with direct deposit. I'd wager most have months of cash reserves. While their 401k's have suffered, they're still paying their mortgage, feeding their families, and - at the worst levels - are exceptionally bored. On the other side, I see people (friends and family) choosing to wait to pay their rent in favor of groceries. * I'm in Austin, so almost 2 months in counting the SXSW cancelation on May 6th.. which was a good idea in that it probably prevented us from being a NYC or New Orleans in the short term.
- rbanffy 6y ago
  I advocate for the continued lockdown, but then I also advocate for universal basic income and universal healthcare, which are usually dismissed as "socialism". The way it is in the US, with healthcare tied to a job (or paid at insurance market rates) and pretty much no social safety nets is a disaster waiting to happen. It turns out the disaster doesn't need to wait anymore.
  - 0xdeadbeefbabe 6y ago
    Comrade don't admit so many things in one place or no one will join the party.
    - rbanffy 6y ago
      We have free cake. Don't underestimate its power. Also, the fewer survivors, the easier the revolution gets.
      - caseysoftware 6y ago
        > Also, the fewer survivors, the easier the revolution gets. That's oddly appropriate explanation of communist thought in the 20th century.
        rbanffy 6y ago
        If you consider they needed to engage in armed conflicts not unlike most independence wars, that's understandable. This time, however, it's the Trump supporters who really want to engage in behavior that has about 5% of chances of getting them killed.
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caseysoftware 6y ago

^ This Without exception, everyone I've seen or heard of advocating for continuing the lockdowns/shelter in place have remote-friendly jobs with direct deposit. I'd wager most have months of cash reserves. While their 401k's have suffered, they're still paying their mortgage, feeding their families, and - at the worst levels - are exceptionally bored. On the other side, I see people (friends and family) choosing to wait to pay their rent in favor of groceries. * I'm in Austin, so almost 2 months in counting the SXSW cancelation on May 6th.. which was a good idea in that it probably prevented us from being a NYC or New Orleans in the short term.

rbanffy 6y ago
I advocate for the continued lockdown, but then I also advocate for universal basic income and universal healthcare, which are usually dismissed as "socialism". The way it is in the US, with healthcare tied to a job (or paid at insurance market rates) and pretty much no social safety nets is a disaster waiting to happen. It turns out the disaster doesn't need to wait anymore.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 6y ago
  Comrade don't admit so many things in one place or no one will join the party.
  - rbanffy 6y ago
    We have free cake. Don't underestimate its power. Also, the fewer survivors, the easier the revolution gets.
    - caseysoftware 6y ago
      > Also, the fewer survivors, the easier the revolution gets. That's oddly appropriate explanation of communist thought in the 20th century.
      - rbanffy 6y ago
        If you consider they needed to engage in armed conflicts not unlike most independence wars, that's understandable. This time, however, it's the Trump supporters who really want to engage in behavior that has about 5% of chances of getting them killed.
    - deleted 6y ago
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