>The real problem is "seasoned programmers" who don't work in web development Problem is some of those seasoned developers didn't just "put together a GeoCitie

>The real problem is "seasoned programmers" who don't work in web development Problem is some of those seasoned developers didn't just "put together a GeoCities homepage twenty years ago" (which is itself a weird knock on some devs in the midst of a rant that appears to be knocking people for knocking devs). They worked on "actual" hard stuff that even you might consider hard--let's say kernel or database development or even challenging Web development problems that actually existed prior to the current state of things (audience gasps). So the question is whether there is a mismatch between the objective and the level of difficulty/complexity? Some stuff is just hard by consensus (and the relative number of people who can actually do it). Other stuff is needlessly complex. Another category is both hard and needlessly complex. So, instead of parsing the complaints here into a personal attack on certain developer skillsets, then rebutting with the same, it might be more useful to earnestly consider whether things have been made overly complex and can be improved.