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Or scalies. They all seem to trend towards feminine cat/fox 'sonas. I guess it's a result of the data-set used.

by lykr0n 6y ago

duskwuff 6y ago
> They all seem to trend towards feminine cat/fox 'sonas. The gender bias is actually really interesting. I'm curious how much of it is due to: * Inherent bias in the source dataset. (For example, nekomimi art is overwhelmingly female -- there's a reason they're referred to as "catgirls". The GAN does a great job of distinguishing this from Western anthropomorphic art styles, incidentally.) * Bias introduced through filtering of the dataset, e.g. by excluding NSFW source material or certain tags, or a bias in what types of faces were recognized. * Androgynous faces being interpreted as feminine by default. * GAN-specific characteristics of the output (like smooth features) being interpreted as feminine.
- lykr0n 6y ago
  I think it's bais towards catgirls and other anthropomorphized anime characters which is skewing the results. If you go to FA, you would have to look hard to find feminine like this. It's either using a catgirls, as you say, heavy dataset or mixing two unrelated datasets. I don't like the word feminine, because it's not really what furry feminine is. It's a human-applied-to-furry concept. ACTUALLY. As I refresh the page, I get the feeling that it's the result of weird mixing between flat shaded art and mixing anthromorphic and "cargirls" (for lack of a better term- and I don't want to say east vs western, because catgirls dont' fall under furry)- anime inspired furry. It's weird, and makes me ponder. If the underlying datasets are a more similar art style and didn't have anime inspired art mixed in, I think the result would be less confusing and cooler. Still an awesome project.
Izkata 6y ago
According to a comment way up top, yes to the species: scalies and ponies were excluded to keep it relatively simple for StyleGAN to work with.

Or scalies. They all seem to trend towards feminine cat/fox 'sonas. I guess it's a result of the data-set used.

by lykr0n 6y ago

Or scalies. They all seem to trend towards feminine cat/fox 'sonas. I guess it's a result of the data-set used.

> They all seem to trend towards feminine cat/fox 'sonas. The gender bias is actually really interesting. I'm curious how much of it is due to: * Inherent bias in the source dataset. (For example, nekomimi art is overwhelmingly female -- there's a reason they're referred to as "catgirls". The GAN does a great job of distinguishing this from Western anthropomorphic art styles, incidentally.) * Bias introduced through filtering of the dataset, e.g. by excluding NSFW source material or certain tags, or a bias in what types of faces were recognized. * Androgynous faces being interpreted as feminine by default. * GAN-specific characteristics of the output (like smooth features) being interpreted as feminine.

lykr0n 6y ago
I think it's bais towards catgirls and other anthropomorphized anime characters which is skewing the results. If you go to FA, you would have to look hard to find feminine like this. It's either using a catgirls, as you say, heavy dataset or mixing two unrelated datasets. I don't like the word feminine, because it's not really what furry feminine is. It's a human-applied-to-furry concept. ACTUALLY. As I refresh the page, I get the feeling that it's the result of weird mixing between flat shaded art and mixing anthromorphic and "cargirls" (for lack of a better term- and I don't want to say east vs western, because catgirls dont' fall under furry)- anime inspired furry. It's weird, and makes me ponder. If the underlying datasets are a more similar art style and didn't have anime inspired art mixed in, I think the result would be less confusing and cooler. Still an awesome project.

Izkata 6y ago

According to a comment way up top, yes to the species: scalies and ponies were excluded to keep it relatively simple for StyleGAN to work with.