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I don't know if turning off access to a clearly in-progress and not meant for public use SIP project that somehow got stumbled upon means Google hates SIP. I th

I don't know if turning off access to a clearly in-progress and not meant for public use SIP project that somehow got stumbled upon means Google hates SIP. I think it means they are working on something and will release it when it is done. I mean, c'mon, Google is building SIP support directly into their phone OS. They aren't against you. Be patient.

technomancy 16y ago
It wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't happened right after they killed Gizmo, which I was relying on for my primary number. Salt on a wound; ugh.
- Kylekramer 16y ago
  I don't know, but I am willing to bet it isn't a coincidence that Gizmo5 is shutting down around the same time as hints of SIP for Google Voice #'s is leaking.
  - technomancy 16y ago
    Most people seem to be misunderstanding this, but the recently discovered GV+SIP support is not a replacement for Gizmo SIP accounts. It allows other SIP users to call GV numbers transparently, but it doesn't allow SIP clients to act as GV clients purely over VoIP.
    - Kylekramer 16y ago
      Again, I am just purely speculating, but I suspect that the discovered support was just a small part of a full SIP client.
rwl 16y ago
> I mean, c'mon, Google is building SIP support directly into their phone OS. They aren't against you. Be patient. According to this [1], SIP support already exists in Android 2.3. I don't know how far this "support" goes (I suppose it's not hooked up to the Google Voice app, at least). And I wonder how many carriers, once they are shipping Android 2.3, are going to leave that code in place and accessible to the user. I don't want to be too much of a conspiracy theorist here, but I do wonder if Google is dragging their feet on SIP support because of conflicts of interest with Android. [1] http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-23-platform-and-updated-sdk.html http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-23-pl...
- Pyrodogg 16y ago
  I don't think the conflict is as strong as it once was. Mobile carriers have already begun to 'pivot' to be data providers instead of phone providers with data on the side. I think they'll find a way to get their margins either way and data, including voip calling, might end up being cheaper for them in the long run anyway. I guess that's contingent on if they can innovate fast enough to keep their networks from being crushed.
- shareme 16y ago
  Its optional support in that the OEM-MOs can not implemented it in their Android OS distribution..
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tdfx 16y ago
I just reused someone elses' thread title for HN. I don't believe (as the original author might) that Google hates SIP. My concern is that they purchased a company with a functional and well-liked product and are shutting it down before they have any alternative to offer.

technomancy 16y ago

It wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't happened right after they killed Gizmo, which I was relying on for my primary number. Salt on a wound; ugh.

Kylekramer 16y ago
I don't know, but I am willing to bet it isn't a coincidence that Gizmo5 is shutting down around the same time as hints of SIP for Google Voice #'s is leaking.
- technomancy 16y ago
  Most people seem to be misunderstanding this, but the recently discovered GV+SIP support is not a replacement for Gizmo SIP accounts. It allows other SIP users to call GV numbers transparently, but it doesn't allow SIP clients to act as GV clients purely over VoIP.
  - Kylekramer 16y ago
    Again, I am just purely speculating, but I suspect that the discovered support was just a small part of a full SIP client.

rwl 16y ago

> I mean, c'mon, Google is building SIP support directly into their phone OS. They aren't against you. Be patient. According to this [1], SIP support already exists in Android 2.3. I don't know how far this "support" goes (I suppose it's not hooked up to the Google Voice app, at least). And I wonder how many carriers, once they are shipping Android 2.3, are going to leave that code in place and accessible to the user. I don't want to be too much of a conspiracy theorist here, but I do wonder if Google is dragging their feet on SIP support because of conflicts of interest with Android. [1] http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-23-platform-and-updated-sdk.html http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-23-pl...

Pyrodogg 16y ago
I don't think the conflict is as strong as it once was. Mobile carriers have already begun to 'pivot' to be data providers instead of phone providers with data on the side. I think they'll find a way to get their margins either way and data, including voip calling, might end up being cheaper for them in the long run anyway. I guess that's contingent on if they can innovate fast enough to keep their networks from being crushed.
shareme 16y ago
Its optional support in that the OEM-MOs can not implemented it in their Android OS distribution..

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tdfx 16y ago

I just reused someone elses' thread title for HN. I don't believe (as the original author might) that Google hates SIP. My concern is that they purchased a company with a functional and well-liked product and are shutting it down before they have any alternative to offer.