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> “ True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it, which I'm pretty sure they would.” Which begs the question why te
by mlthoughts2018 6y ago
> “ True test of competence would be these mistakes don't repeat and that they learn from it, which I'm pretty sure they would.”
Which begs the question why test engineers with leetcode trivia bullshit. You are yourself emphasizing why their interview process (and they are just one of many offenders) is so bananas inappropriate.
- pb7 6y agoOne single bug is why their process is bananas inappropriate? I really hope all of your code is perfect every single time to be acting so high and mighty.
- mlthoughts2018 6y agoThis is so shortsighted it’s painful. You’re describing the attitude Facebook takes towards candidates, not the attitude I take towards anything. Candidates should be saying to Facebook, “ I really hope all of your code is perfect every single time to be acting so high and mighty” and absolutely making a huge deal out of a case like this when it isn’t.
- pb7 6y agoYou are making a MASSIVE assumption that most people dislike Leetcode. I personally don't and neither does anyone I know. It's way better than the interview formats of almost every other profession out there that's 2 parts sucking up, 2 parts connections, and 1 part luck. Show me a better process that can handle 100,000+ candidates a year with a stronger signal and less or equal time invested and I'll change my mind. At the very least, hating the current process shows that you're lazy, stubborn, and unwilling to learn what is necessary to get the job done. Hardly desirable traits in a coworker.
- mlthoughts2018 6y ago> “ You are making a MASSIVE assumption that most people dislike Leetcode.” No, this is not an assumption.
- Apocryphon 6y agoThis isn't exactly the first time Facebook has been called out for poor engineering practices: https://www.darkcoding.net/software/facebooks-code-quality-problem/ https://www.darkcoding.net/software/facebooks-code-quality-p... https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios-v-87-0/ https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap...
- pb7 6y agoSo what? They're an enormous engineering company with many millions of lines of code. Bugs are expected.
- Apocryphon 6y agoThose criticisms aren't about mere bugs, but a bloated over-engineered iOS apps with far too many classes (18k back in 2015) [0]. The Android app was also previously notorious for patching Dalvik at runtime to deal with the huge number of Java methods [1]. Granted, perhaps things have gotten better in the last five years. It's certainly possible for an enormous engineering company to have poor code quality or poor engineering practices, despite having a high interviewing standard. And a criticism of Facebook need not be a criticism of all companies that interview by Leetcode, for instance no one here is criticizing Google, Amazon, or Apple, and all have better reputations for code quality. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSProgramming/comments/6upeu6/how_on_earth_is_the_facebook_app_size_so_large/dluf4rc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSProgramming/comments/6upeu6/how_... [1] https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-the-hood-dalvik-patch-for-facebook-for-android/10151345597798920 https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-th...
- saagarjha 6y agoI think I’ve done things like what Facebook did, when I was writing one-off security exploit scripts. Someone needs to stop that team.