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Could relaxing still home and cooking your own meals reduce activity-causing heart attacks? It’s a trope in the North-East that middle aged men die shoveling sn

Could relaxing still home and cooking your own meals reduce activity-causing heart attacks? It’s a trope in the North-East that middle aged men die shoveling snow.

munk-a 7y ago
Possibly in the short term - in the long term the quarantine is likely going to increase heart disease due to people having more sedentary life styles... It's quite likely this is just a result of the math of going to a hospital shifting - a lot of folks decide not to go to the hospital with minor chest pain due to other obligations[1] and the addition of the outbreak likely adds to the reasons not to go to the hospital. 1. Don't do this, go to the hospital if you feel something different in your chest.
- benburleson 7y ago
  This is anecdotal, but I've never seen more people out walking around town than the last couple months. Is there research showing people are more sedentary now?
  - indecisive_user 7y ago
    Crime is down, while domestic violence is up. That's evidence people are staying inside more. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52416330 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52416330 As a counter anecdote, I know many people that only leave their house a few times per week, including for walks. They are definitely more sedentary now.
    - guscost 7y ago
      And you'd think deaths from auto accidents would be way down, but apparently not in Boston: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-covid-19-massachusetts-fatal-crashes-rate-doubled-april-massdot/ https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-covid-19-...
      - wafn 7y ago
        Anecdotally, around my town the lower number of drivers on the road seems to be causing those who remain to feel like traffic laws don't matter. I can't even count how many times I have seen blatant "it's red but there's no traffic so I'll just go" behaviors, along with ridiculous speeding and lane changing. Doesn't help that the police essentially announced that they won't be looking for crime anymore.
      - harambaebae69 7y ago
        I live in Boston and drive every day still. This is anecdotal - but I've seen the same amount of bad driving as ever (largely around merging, roundabouts, and turn signal usage) but now it's at a significantly higher speed because on I-95 and I-93 you can easily hit 85 mph instead of the customary 45 mph the whole way during rush hour. I don't have any data, but I imagine that explains the similar serious accident rate.
    - cat199 7y ago
      > That's evidence people are staying inside more. no, that's a big extrapolation.. one possible counterpoint: couples in healthy relationships could still be going out more, whereas those in dysfunctional ones might be fighting more due to more proximity or exascerbated economic hardship
  - jerzyt 7y ago
    It would be nice for Fitbit to publish some research. They have the data.
  - diego 7y ago
    How many of those people would normally be walking in malls, stadiums or even gyms?
- ravenstine 7y ago
  That and I would suspect that people are eating more "junk", or carbs mixed with sugar and fat. I know I depression-ate out of my prepper stash for the first few weeks.
WalterSear 7y ago
Most people don't have easy remote-ok-browse-hacker-news-at-4pm jobs. They are at home, watching their debt grow and wondering how they will be able to find a new job to pay their bills.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  Yeah, amazes me how many people think everyone is just relaxing at home playing Animal Crossing with paid time off wondering why we can't stay in quarantine indefinitely.
  - WalterSear 7y ago
    This country absolutely has the resources necessary to shelter in place as long as is required. However, it lacks the political will to do so.
    - loopz 7y ago
      No country avoids lockdown. It happens controlled or uncontrolled. When control is back, everyone open up again. Nobody wants these adverse side-effects, and that they may be worse than the virus is nothing new. Our plight as society is find ways to cope with it and prepare better.
yissp 7y ago
On the other hand, I think many folks are under a lot more stress in the current economic situation. That might have negative public health implications.
onetimemanytime 7y ago
For the first few days maybe, but eventually you'll be throwing the frying pan at your others. Add lack of exercise, fresh air and there you have it. People also go nuts

Could relaxing still home and cooking your own meals reduce activity-causing heart attacks? It’s a trope in the North-East that middle aged men die shoveling snow.

munk-a 7y ago

Possibly in the short term - in the long term the quarantine is likely going to increase heart disease due to people having more sedentary life styles... It's quite likely this is just a result of the math of going to a hospital shifting - a lot of folks decide not to go to the hospital with minor chest pain due to other obligations[1] and the addition of the outbreak likely adds to the reasons not to go to the hospital. 1. Don't do this, go to the hospital if you feel something different in your chest.

benburleson 7y ago
This is anecdotal, but I've never seen more people out walking around town than the last couple months. Is there research showing people are more sedentary now?
- indecisive_user 7y ago
  Crime is down, while domestic violence is up. That's evidence people are staying inside more. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52416330 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52416330 As a counter anecdote, I know many people that only leave their house a few times per week, including for walks. They are definitely more sedentary now.
  - guscost 7y ago
    And you'd think deaths from auto accidents would be way down, but apparently not in Boston: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-covid-19-massachusetts-fatal-crashes-rate-doubled-april-massdot/ https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-covid-19-...
    - wafn 7y ago
      Anecdotally, around my town the lower number of drivers on the road seems to be causing those who remain to feel like traffic laws don't matter. I can't even count how many times I have seen blatant "it's red but there's no traffic so I'll just go" behaviors, along with ridiculous speeding and lane changing. Doesn't help that the police essentially announced that they won't be looking for crime anymore.
    - harambaebae69 7y ago
      I live in Boston and drive every day still. This is anecdotal - but I've seen the same amount of bad driving as ever (largely around merging, roundabouts, and turn signal usage) but now it's at a significantly higher speed because on I-95 and I-93 you can easily hit 85 mph instead of the customary 45 mph the whole way during rush hour. I don't have any data, but I imagine that explains the similar serious accident rate.
  - cat199 7y ago
    > That's evidence people are staying inside more. no, that's a big extrapolation.. one possible counterpoint: couples in healthy relationships could still be going out more, whereas those in dysfunctional ones might be fighting more due to more proximity or exascerbated economic hardship
- jerzyt 7y ago
  It would be nice for Fitbit to publish some research. They have the data.
- diego 7y ago
  How many of those people would normally be walking in malls, stadiums or even gyms?
ravenstine 7y ago
That and I would suspect that people are eating more "junk", or carbs mixed with sugar and fat. I know I depression-ate out of my prepper stash for the first few weeks.

WalterSear 7y ago

Most people don't have easy remote-ok-browse-hacker-news-at-4pm jobs. They are at home, watching their debt grow and wondering how they will be able to find a new job to pay their bills.

hombre_fatal 7y ago
Yeah, amazes me how many people think everyone is just relaxing at home playing Animal Crossing with paid time off wondering why we can't stay in quarantine indefinitely.
- WalterSear 7y ago
  This country absolutely has the resources necessary to shelter in place as long as is required. However, it lacks the political will to do so.
  - loopz 7y ago
    No country avoids lockdown. It happens controlled or uncontrolled. When control is back, everyone open up again. Nobody wants these adverse side-effects, and that they may be worse than the virus is nothing new. Our plight as society is find ways to cope with it and prepare better.

yissp 7y ago

On the other hand, I think many folks are under a lot more stress in the current economic situation. That might have negative public health implications.

onetimemanytime 7y ago

For the first few days maybe, but eventually you'll be throwing the frying pan at your others. Add lack of exercise, fresh air and there you have it. People also go nuts