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So ignore the submission instead of downvoting it and flagging it for being against guidelines when this submission makes it clear that it’s just a preference a

by tempsy 6y ago

So ignore the submission instead of downvoting it and flagging it for being against guidelines when this submission makes it clear that it’s just a preference and not a hard and fast rule.

DoofusOfDeath 6y ago
I don't recall seeing any HN guidelines regarding acceptable reasons for downvoting. This makes downvotes ambiguous. It could mean that someone found the story/post uninteresting, or in breach of site etiquette, or that they disagreed with your position/argument but couldn't be bothered to reply. Many HN users (including me) share your frustration with this state of affairs, but there's no consensus that this should change.
- tempsy 6y ago
  People justified flagging and downvoting the story at the time because there’s some guidelines around “no current event stories that you could read about anywhere” It wasn’t just downvoting it was flagging it for removal. All of them.
  - DoofusOfDeath 6y ago
    There actually is a related guideline [0]: > What to Submit > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. IMHO those guidelines indicate that neither Bryant's nor Schneider's deaths should be posted on HN. I can see why you'd be frustrated that one was upvoted and the other downvoted. You might be happiest by putting this in the "imperfect system manned by imperfect people" bucket. One can only get worked up about so many issues before going bitter and crazy. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by tempsy 6y ago

So ignore the submission instead of downvoting it and flagging it for being against guidelines when this submission makes it clear that it’s just a preference and not a hard and fast rule.

DoofusOfDeath 6y ago

I don't recall seeing any HN guidelines regarding acceptable reasons for downvoting. This makes downvotes ambiguous. It could mean that someone found the story/post uninteresting, or in breach of site etiquette, or that they disagreed with your position/argument but couldn't be bothered to reply. Many HN users (including me) share your frustration with this state of affairs, but there's no consensus that this should change.

tempsy 6y ago
People justified flagging and downvoting the story at the time because there’s some guidelines around “no current event stories that you could read about anywhere” It wasn’t just downvoting it was flagging it for removal. All of them.
- DoofusOfDeath 6y ago
  There actually is a related guideline [0]: > What to Submit > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. IMHO those guidelines indicate that neither Bryant's nor Schneider's deaths should be posted on HN. I can see why you'd be frustrated that one was upvoted and the other downvoted. You might be happiest by putting this in the "imperfect system manned by imperfect people" bucket. One can only get worked up about so many issues before going bitter and crazy. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html