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To be fair, nothing was announced today by GH that wasn't in GL for several years. Perhaps the quality of VS Code trumps GL WebIDE ... But I am not the sort of

To be fair, nothing was announced today by GH that wasn't in GL for several years. Perhaps the quality of VS Code trumps GL WebIDE ... But I am not the sort of developer to ditch my desktop editors / IDEs for something running in a browser (electron or otherwise).

sdesol 6y ago
I think the most important thing that most people maybe forgetting is, GitHub maybe announcing these features, but these features were the results of acquiring companies that were solely focused on these features for years. So if you take this into consideration, GitHub's feature has not only been in works for a while, but they have been refined to a point that GitLab will have a hard time catching up to. There is no way GitLab will be able to compete on the IDE front-end for a while since GitHub's solution is essentially VSCode which they own and is iterated on at an incredible rate. And the one thing Microsoft hasn't made open source, that makes remote work incredibility powerful, is what makes Codespace incredibility difficult for GitLab to compete with. Their security scan feature is the result of acquiring a leader in the field with expertise that GitLab will have a hard time matching/hiring for. And GitHub's Insights feature is the result of multiple acquisitions with years of previous experience. These announcements maybe new, but the solutions that GitHub has released are years ahead of GitLab's existing solution.
- ablekh 6y ago
  I think that you are wrong on VS Code Remote not being open source. Here is the relevant repository: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release. Corresponding official documentation (https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview) states that Visual Studio Codespaces is essentially a managed service of Visual Studio Code Remote Development. BTW, there is also an interesting alternative, the `code-server` project (https://github.com/cdr/code-server https://github.com/cdr/code-server). P.S. FYI: The TLS certificate on https://gitsense.com https://gitsense.com has expired.
  - sdesol 6y ago
    I vaguely remember a post a while back (maybe a year ago) where they said they can't make a part of their remote technology open-source. Maybe things have changed, but I was quite sure it was something they were keeping close to them. Also thanks for pointing out the certificate issue. I was actually leaving it that way on purpose, but I guess it can reflect poorly on my product, so I should just update the landing page with something non-descriptive.
    - ablekh 6y ago
      Perhaps, you're right (or maybe not :-). Frankly, all this stuff, while interesting and eventually useful, is a bit low on my current priority list ... Re: certificate - You're welcome.
  - jedieaston 6y ago
    That repo doesn’t have any code in it, it’s used purely for issue tracking and syncing with the VS extension repo, I believe.
    - ablekh 6y ago
      My bad. Apparently, you're correct. It seems that relevant code is a part of VS Code codebase. Perhaps, this is it (though, I very well might be wrong on this, too): https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/master/src/vs/workbench/services/remote https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/master/src/vs/workb....

sdesol 6y ago

I think the most important thing that most people maybe forgetting is, GitHub maybe announcing these features, but these features were the results of acquiring companies that were solely focused on these features for years. So if you take this into consideration, GitHub's feature has not only been in works for a while, but they have been refined to a point that GitLab will have a hard time catching up to. There is no way GitLab will be able to compete on the IDE front-end for a while since GitHub's solution is essentially VSCode which they own and is iterated on at an incredible rate. And the one thing Microsoft hasn't made open source, that makes remote work incredibility powerful, is what makes Codespace incredibility difficult for GitLab to compete with. Their security scan feature is the result of acquiring a leader in the field with expertise that GitLab will have a hard time matching/hiring for. And GitHub's Insights feature is the result of multiple acquisitions with years of previous experience. These announcements maybe new, but the solutions that GitHub has released are years ahead of GitLab's existing solution.

ablekh 6y ago
I think that you are wrong on VS Code Remote not being open source. Here is the relevant repository: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release. Corresponding official documentation (https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview) states that Visual Studio Codespaces is essentially a managed service of Visual Studio Code Remote Development. BTW, there is also an interesting alternative, the `code-server` project (https://github.com/cdr/code-server https://github.com/cdr/code-server). P.S. FYI: The TLS certificate on https://gitsense.com https://gitsense.com has expired.
- sdesol 6y ago
  I vaguely remember a post a while back (maybe a year ago) where they said they can't make a part of their remote technology open-source. Maybe things have changed, but I was quite sure it was something they were keeping close to them. Also thanks for pointing out the certificate issue. I was actually leaving it that way on purpose, but I guess it can reflect poorly on my product, so I should just update the landing page with something non-descriptive.
  - ablekh 6y ago
    Perhaps, you're right (or maybe not :-). Frankly, all this stuff, while interesting and eventually useful, is a bit low on my current priority list ... Re: certificate - You're welcome.
- jedieaston 6y ago
  That repo doesn’t have any code in it, it’s used purely for issue tracking and syncing with the VS extension repo, I believe.
  - ablekh 6y ago
    My bad. Apparently, you're correct. It seems that relevant code is a part of VS Code codebase. Perhaps, this is it (though, I very well might be wrong on this, too): https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/master/src/vs/workbench/services/remote https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/master/src/vs/workb....