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Even for C# VSCode is way less useful than VisualStudio, which also has a free version (though doesn't run on Linux)

twodave 6y ago
Honestly, unless I'm working on a Windows machine, I find JetBrains Rider to be the best option for C# specifically. This is especially true if you like having your tests easily accessible from your IDE. That said, VSCode is still very nice for front-end pretty much universally, and it's also great for things like back-end Javascript/Typescript. I think Codespaces is really going to excel when it comes to things like NodeJS -> AWS Lambda. Make code changes, run "sls test", done.
- recursive 6y ago
  > This is especially true if you like having your tests easily accessible from your IDE. I haven't used Rider, but I'm curious how it could be easier than the Visual Studio test explorer? It seems pretty convenient, and doesn't lack any obvious features I can think of.
  - noworriesnate 6y ago
    Minor point: the Rider test explorer tells you why your tests aren't appearing. Visual Studio's test explorer will just say "You have no tests, try rebuilding your solution" even if you already rebuilt it.
  - peteri 6y ago
    I assume in part this is because the Rider test explorer is based on the one in Resharper. Some stuff it does better is things like running 64 bit and 32 bit tests at the same time, supporting both nUnit 2 & 3 without having to disable/enable the plugin. Mind you I spent some time with code in release mode trying to work why I couldn't debug a test last week. To be fair I hate what Resharper does for Visual Studio performance and a lot of the really useful refactoring in box these days so I no longer use it. I prefer to stick with Visual Studio but I know lots of folks who are happy with Rider. It's good for all of us when there is competition in paid for developer tools.
holtalanm 6y ago
While Visual Studio is powerful, I have ran into wierd behaviors within the IDE that just make it a chore to use. Personally, I've preferred C# on VSCode over Visual Studio so far.
Guillaume86 6y ago
> Even for C# Weird way to put it, C# is expected to work better in VisualStudio, it's the standard/officially supported .NET IDE. For everything else I prefer VS Code personally.
AsyncAwait 6y ago
JetBrains has Rider on Linux for C# and while not free, if you're already paying for other JetBrains IDE's, as many devs do, it's included. I just think there's still not much reason to do C# on Linux over say Kotlin if you want a huge ecosystem. I'd consider it if they come out with a cross-platform GUI toolkit for .NET Core/
WorldMaker 6y ago
I feel with .NET Core migrations the wind is shifting, at least for web development where VSCode is starting to be preferable to Visual Studio. VSCode isn't likely to get the WinForms or XAML visual designers any time soon, so Desktop apps will likely stay a Visual Studio niche, but even then I've found myself increasingly working in VSCode up until the point I need to do a UI tweak even with Desktop apps.
mythz 6y ago
It's no contest, JetBrains Rider provides the best C# development experience on any platform, with smarts well beyond what VS is capable of. While a commercial product, I've got 9 JetBrains products installed under the same toolbox subscription where it's by far the best value software suite I've ever paid for. Thanks to their Toolbox App you can update all products with a single click, just the productivity saved from not having to endure VS's multi-gigabyte updates & OS restarts pays for itself.

Honestly, unless I'm working on a Windows machine, I find JetBrains Rider to be the best option for C# specifically. This is especially true if you like having your tests easily accessible from your IDE. That said, VSCode is still very nice for front-end pretty much universally, and it's also great for things like back-end Javascript/Typescript. I think Codespaces is really going to excel when it comes to things like NodeJS -> AWS Lambda. Make code changes, run "sls test", done.

recursive 6y ago
> This is especially true if you like having your tests easily accessible from your IDE. I haven't used Rider, but I'm curious how it could be easier than the Visual Studio test explorer? It seems pretty convenient, and doesn't lack any obvious features I can think of.
- noworriesnate 6y ago
  Minor point: the Rider test explorer tells you why your tests aren't appearing. Visual Studio's test explorer will just say "You have no tests, try rebuilding your solution" even if you already rebuilt it.
- peteri 6y ago
  I assume in part this is because the Rider test explorer is based on the one in Resharper. Some stuff it does better is things like running 64 bit and 32 bit tests at the same time, supporting both nUnit 2 & 3 without having to disable/enable the plugin. Mind you I spent some time with code in release mode trying to work why I couldn't debug a test last week. To be fair I hate what Resharper does for Visual Studio performance and a lot of the really useful refactoring in box these days so I no longer use it. I prefer to stick with Visual Studio but I know lots of folks who are happy with Rider. It's good for all of us when there is competition in paid for developer tools.

holtalanm 6y ago

While Visual Studio is powerful, I have ran into wierd behaviors within the IDE that just make it a chore to use. Personally, I've preferred C# on VSCode over Visual Studio so far.

Guillaume86 6y ago

> Even for C# Weird way to put it, C# is expected to work better in VisualStudio, it's the standard/officially supported .NET IDE. For everything else I prefer VS Code personally.

AsyncAwait 6y ago

JetBrains has Rider on Linux for C# and while not free, if you're already paying for other JetBrains IDE's, as many devs do, it's included. I just think there's still not much reason to do C# on Linux over say Kotlin if you want a huge ecosystem. I'd consider it if they come out with a cross-platform GUI toolkit for .NET Core/

WorldMaker 6y ago

I feel with .NET Core migrations the wind is shifting, at least for web development where VSCode is starting to be preferable to Visual Studio. VSCode isn't likely to get the WinForms or XAML visual designers any time soon, so Desktop apps will likely stay a Visual Studio niche, but even then I've found myself increasingly working in VSCode up until the point I need to do a UI tweak even with Desktop apps.

mythz 6y ago

It's no contest, JetBrains Rider provides the best C# development experience on any platform, with smarts well beyond what VS is capable of. While a commercial product, I've got 9 JetBrains products installed under the same toolbox subscription where it's by far the best value software suite I've ever paid for. Thanks to their Toolbox App you can update all products with a single click, just the productivity saved from not having to endure VS's multi-gigabyte updates & OS restarts pays for itself.