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Codespaces uses the same underlying technology as Visual Studio Codespaces to bring a fully GitHub-native experience to our GitHub users. We've been working wit

Codespaces uses the same underlying technology as Visual Studio Codespaces to bring a fully GitHub-native experience to our GitHub users. We've been working with multiple teams on the Visual Studio side to make this happen (I work as the product lead on Codespaces)

twunde 6y ago
Similarly Github Actions is reusing a lot of Azure Pipelines under the hood. One of the most impressive parts about Microsoft's recent acquisitions is how quickly essentially two separate companies are now sharing code. It's hard enough to get different teams/products in the same company to use shared code in a meaningful way, and Microsoft has accomplished it with a new company.
- dkarlovi 6y ago
  Having APIs designed for public consumption probably helped.
  - jopsen 6y ago
    My experience with azure storage didn't make me think it was "designed"...
    - Lorin 6y ago
      Evolved via natural selection perhaps?
    - cure 6y ago
      Azure storage is definitely the black sheep. They cleaned up the VM/compute layer a few years ago with the introduction of Azure Resource Manager (ARM), but storage hasn't gotten that big an overhaul yet. And it shows. They seem to be slowly improving things under the hood though...
      - toomuchtodo 6y ago
        Hopefully they’ll eventually provide an S3 compatibility layer like everyone else.
      - techpop10 6y ago
        Give Azure NetApp Files a test drive. World of difference.
    - geewee 6y ago
      What's the issue with Azure Storage? It seems to me like it's one of the azure cloud services that are the least painful to use - at least through the official SDKs
- op03 6y ago
  All that is nice. But who are they building this for? Who is asking for this stuff?
  - dotancohen 6y ago
    So I suppose that you would like a faster horse?
    - op03 6y ago
      When someone builds something and doesn't actually mention why, its not unreasonable to ask what the motivation was...
      - zerkten 6y ago
        Have you asked them? You can hit up pretty much anyone these days on Twitter and they'll respond, if the question is reasonable. You make it sound like someone owes you a response. If this is about GitHub Actions specifically there is quite a bit of info at https://github.blog/2019-08-08-github-actions-now-supports-ci-cd/ https://github.blog/2019-08-08-github-actions-now-supports-c.... My takeaway is that it's about packaging up Azure Pipelines in a way that GitHub users understand and complements other features. There are more jarring ways to integrate the products.
        xpe 6y ago
        > You make it sound like someone owes you a response. I didn't interpret the comment that way. BTW, I'm not saying your interpretation is "not true" or "crazy" or anything like that. I just think it is better to keep this kind of (bad faith) interpretation private. I think it is useful to remember this HN guideline "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." [1] The benefit, which is not spelled out there, is that if more of us do this, there will be fewer amplifications / chain-reactions of misinterpretations. This results in a more useful discussion. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- inopinatus 6y ago
  GitHub’s acquisition of Microsoft is really paying off.
  - 7hero 6y ago
    Thanks to Microsoft maybe it will be possible to code seriously on an iPad. Hey Apple look at this!
nojvek 6y ago
So I imagine this is similar to codesandbox.io which already lets you do frontendy bits? I imagine the way Code spaces works is you spin up a container in azure with checked out GitHub branch, vscode on the browser then interfaces with the container(s). Pretty neat idea if you can customize the docker container setup like a simple docker compose file or something.
ramraj07 6y ago
For the love of God please make it work at least manageably in phones! Tall ask no doubt, but y'all seem capable of it. GitHub does everything right except getting the phone experience right!
- LoungeFlyZ 6y ago
  Do you really want to write coffee on your phone? I couldn't imagine wanting to every do that myself. Am I weird? :)
  - ketzo 6y ago
    I will say it would be nice to review a PR while standing in line for groceries.
    - icemelt8 6y ago
      I think you can do that from the Github app.
    - legostormtroopr 6y ago
      I'm gonna say you are in the minority there. Firstly, a Review should be just that a review of the code - not just a blind acceptance of a button. Its going to be hard to properly review code, which may be across multiple files, or may require switching within the same file, on a phone. And secondly, work life balance, just because you can work while waiting in line for groceries doesn't mean you should
      - mrmanner 6y ago
        My main usage of the app so far has been to approve PRs when pair/mob programming. Instead of going back to my desk where my computer is, I can approve the PR I've co-authored immediately. Obviously it's quite a narrow use case, but I imagine there are lots of similar cases where the review is simple for one reason or the other and you want to get it done quickly.
      - 6y ago
janik 6y ago
Is the codespaces team hiring by any chance? I took a look at GitHub Jobs, and there are a few positions I could apply to there, but none directly related.
ryan-allen 6y ago
I'm very excited about this! I hope you can host Codespaces in Australia as well so the latency is nice and fast! I tried VSO but I could only deploy to Singapore and it wasn't fast enough for me in Australia. Super super super excited!
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dklend122 6y ago
Can we please have Julia support? :)
espadrine 6y ago
I don’t know Visual Studio Codespaces. Something I don’t yet understand about GitHub Codespaces is: can you execute a Dockerfile from it? Can you execute multiple ones? Can you execute docker-compose configurations? Is it just an editor, or can it also spin an AWS (or Azure?) instance of the code you are writing? I have seen people mention they can code from an iPad; but that’s not a complete workstation replacement unless it is easy to run your code.

twunde 6y ago

Similarly Github Actions is reusing a lot of Azure Pipelines under the hood. One of the most impressive parts about Microsoft's recent acquisitions is how quickly essentially two separate companies are now sharing code. It's hard enough to get different teams/products in the same company to use shared code in a meaningful way, and Microsoft has accomplished it with a new company.

dkarlovi 6y ago
Having APIs designed for public consumption probably helped.
- jopsen 6y ago
  My experience with azure storage didn't make me think it was "designed"...
  - Lorin 6y ago
    Evolved via natural selection perhaps?
  - cure 6y ago
    Azure storage is definitely the black sheep. They cleaned up the VM/compute layer a few years ago with the introduction of Azure Resource Manager (ARM), but storage hasn't gotten that big an overhaul yet. And it shows. They seem to be slowly improving things under the hood though...
    - toomuchtodo 6y ago
      Hopefully they’ll eventually provide an S3 compatibility layer like everyone else.
    - techpop10 6y ago
      Give Azure NetApp Files a test drive. World of difference.
  - geewee 6y ago
    What's the issue with Azure Storage? It seems to me like it's one of the azure cloud services that are the least painful to use - at least through the official SDKs
op03 6y ago
All that is nice. But who are they building this for? Who is asking for this stuff?
- dotancohen 6y ago
  So I suppose that you would like a faster horse?
  - op03 6y ago
    When someone builds something and doesn't actually mention why, its not unreasonable to ask what the motivation was...
    - zerkten 6y ago
      Have you asked them? You can hit up pretty much anyone these days on Twitter and they'll respond, if the question is reasonable. You make it sound like someone owes you a response. If this is about GitHub Actions specifically there is quite a bit of info at https://github.blog/2019-08-08-github-actions-now-supports-ci-cd/ https://github.blog/2019-08-08-github-actions-now-supports-c.... My takeaway is that it's about packaging up Azure Pipelines in a way that GitHub users understand and complements other features. There are more jarring ways to integrate the products.
      - xpe 6y ago
        > You make it sound like someone owes you a response. I didn't interpret the comment that way. BTW, I'm not saying your interpretation is "not true" or "crazy" or anything like that. I just think it is better to keep this kind of (bad faith) interpretation private. I think it is useful to remember this HN guideline "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." [1] The benefit, which is not spelled out there, is that if more of us do this, there will be fewer amplifications / chain-reactions of misinterpretations. This results in a more useful discussion. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
inopinatus 6y ago
GitHub’s acquisition of Microsoft is really paying off.
- 7hero 6y ago
  Thanks to Microsoft maybe it will be possible to code seriously on an iPad. Hey Apple look at this!

nojvek 6y ago

So I imagine this is similar to codesandbox.io which already lets you do frontendy bits? I imagine the way Code spaces works is you spin up a container in azure with checked out GitHub branch, vscode on the browser then interfaces with the container(s). Pretty neat idea if you can customize the docker container setup like a simple docker compose file or something.

ramraj07 6y ago

For the love of God please make it work at least manageably in phones! Tall ask no doubt, but y'all seem capable of it. GitHub does everything right except getting the phone experience right!

LoungeFlyZ 6y ago
Do you really want to write coffee on your phone? I couldn't imagine wanting to every do that myself. Am I weird? :)
- ketzo 6y ago
  I will say it would be nice to review a PR while standing in line for groceries.
  - icemelt8 6y ago
    I think you can do that from the Github app.
  - legostormtroopr 6y ago
    I'm gonna say you are in the minority there. Firstly, a Review should be just that a review of the code - not just a blind acceptance of a button. Its going to be hard to properly review code, which may be across multiple files, or may require switching within the same file, on a phone. And secondly, work life balance, just because you can work while waiting in line for groceries doesn't mean you should
    - mrmanner 6y ago
      My main usage of the app so far has been to approve PRs when pair/mob programming. Instead of going back to my desk where my computer is, I can approve the PR I've co-authored immediately. Obviously it's quite a narrow use case, but I imagine there are lots of similar cases where the review is simple for one reason or the other and you want to get it done quickly.
    - 6y ago

janik 6y ago

Is the codespaces team hiring by any chance? I took a look at GitHub Jobs, and there are a few positions I could apply to there, but none directly related.

ryan-allen 6y ago

I'm very excited about this! I hope you can host Codespaces in Australia as well so the latency is nice and fast! I tried VSO but I could only deploy to Singapore and it wasn't fast enough for me in Australia. Super super super excited!

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dklend122 6y ago

Can we please have Julia support? :)

espadrine 6y ago

I don’t know Visual Studio Codespaces. Something I don’t yet understand about GitHub Codespaces is: can you execute a Dockerfile from it? Can you execute multiple ones? Can you execute docker-compose configurations? Is it just an editor, or can it also spin an AWS (or Azure?) instance of the code you are writing? I have seen people mention they can code from an iPad; but that’s not a complete workstation replacement unless it is easy to run your code.