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Because charging takes much longer than filling up with gas. If someone is willing to pay a premium for charging while driving to reduce total trip time, that's

Because charging takes much longer than filling up with gas. If someone is willing to pay a premium for charging while driving to reduce total trip time, that's a business opportunity.

goodcanadian 6y ago
This is often said, but I am not so sure. Fast-charging takes somewhat longer than filling with gasoline/petrol, but I usually also want a bathroom and coffee break. I can easily do that while my car is charging. That is not really true while dispensing gasoline. It is not so obvious to me that I am losing out time-wise. This is not idle speculation. I own an electric car. Furthermore, the vast majority of my charging occurs at home, over night. The total amount time I have saved by not having to visit gas stations for literally months is significant.
- vonmoltke 6y ago
  > Fast-charging takes somewhat longer than filling with gasoline/petrol, but I usually also want a bathroom and coffee break. It's more than "somewhat". I can put over 400 highway miles of range into my vehicle in five minutes with a gas pump. It takes 30 minutes to put half that into an EV. I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles. > This is not idle speculation. I own an electric car. Furthermore, the vast majority of my charging occurs at home, over night. The total amount time I have saved by not having to visit gas stations for literally months is significant. It sounds like you don't have many days where your driving exceeds the range capacity of your vehicle. The technology in the article, and the post you are responding to, are in the context of long-distance highway travel. It's for cases where a vehicle must be recharged in the middle of a trip, even when it starts with a full battery.
  - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
    * I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles.* Ugh, I don't even want to drive 200 miles in a day if I can avoid it.
  - goodcanadian 6y ago
    I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles. You might be able to do a gas stop in 5 minutes. I'm willing to bet that you can't do a gas stop and pee in that time. Two hundred miles is probably 3 hours of driving, so I am also willing to bet you want at least a coffee. Add five minutes (or more if you have to move your car). If you add in a snack, your total time will probably be around half an hour. A meal, make it an hour.
    - vonmoltke 6y ago
      When I drive long distance, particularly by myself, I typically get on the highway with a full tank and pull off when my low fuel light comes on. Depending on traffic conditions, this is typically between five and six hours. At the end of that I don't mind stopping for half an hour or more, but that requires far more than 200 miles of range. When I do stop in the middle for coffee and a leak, it's rarely more than 15 minutes total off the highway (unless the service is slow).
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- Gibbon1 6y ago
  Back when I did more road trips with friends I measured how long stops take. Stops take a lot longer than people think. People think a gas and pee stop is 5-10 minutes tops. Really 15 minutes to half an hour. Fast food place, half an hour. Sit down meals take more than an hour. Yeah certainly by myself, I could do a gas stop in 5 minutes. With other people never works out like that.

Because charging takes much longer than filling up with gas. If someone is willing to pay a premium for charging while driving to reduce total trip time, that's a business opportunity.

goodcanadian 6y ago

This is often said, but I am not so sure. Fast-charging takes somewhat longer than filling with gasoline/petrol, but I usually also want a bathroom and coffee break. I can easily do that while my car is charging. That is not really true while dispensing gasoline. It is not so obvious to me that I am losing out time-wise. This is not idle speculation. I own an electric car. Furthermore, the vast majority of my charging occurs at home, over night. The total amount time I have saved by not having to visit gas stations for literally months is significant.

vonmoltke 6y ago
> Fast-charging takes somewhat longer than filling with gasoline/petrol, but I usually also want a bathroom and coffee break. It's more than "somewhat". I can put over 400 highway miles of range into my vehicle in five minutes with a gas pump. It takes 30 minutes to put half that into an EV. I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles. > This is not idle speculation. I own an electric car. Furthermore, the vast majority of my charging occurs at home, over night. The total amount time I have saved by not having to visit gas stations for literally months is significant. It sounds like you don't have many days where your driving exceeds the range capacity of your vehicle. The technology in the article, and the post you are responding to, are in the context of long-distance highway travel. It's for cases where a vehicle must be recharged in the middle of a trip, even when it starts with a full battery.
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  * I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles.* Ugh, I don't even want to drive 200 miles in a day if I can avoid it.
- goodcanadian 6y ago
  I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles. You might be able to do a gas stop in 5 minutes. I'm willing to bet that you can't do a gas stop and pee in that time. Two hundred miles is probably 3 hours of driving, so I am also willing to bet you want at least a coffee. Add five minutes (or more if you have to move your car). If you add in a snack, your total time will probably be around half an hour. A meal, make it an hour.
  - vonmoltke 6y ago
    When I drive long distance, particularly by myself, I typically get on the highway with a full tank and pull off when my low fuel light comes on. Depending on traffic conditions, this is typically between five and six hours. At the end of that I don't mind stopping for half an hour or more, but that requires far more than 200 miles of range. When I do stop in the middle for coffee and a leak, it's rarely more than 15 minutes total off the highway (unless the service is slow).
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Gibbon1 6y ago
Back when I did more road trips with friends I measured how long stops take. Stops take a lot longer than people think. People think a gas and pee stop is 5-10 minutes tops. Really 15 minutes to half an hour. Fast food place, half an hour. Sit down meals take more than an hour. Yeah certainly by myself, I could do a gas stop in 5 minutes. With other people never works out like that.