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> Imagine thinking an OS that won't let you easily maximize or snap application windows is any good? What's so difficult about clicking the green button (maxim

• toast0 7y ago
  Whatever the green button does is not maximizing.
  • na85 7y ago
    It maximizes on my mac? Do you have some kind of extension installed?
    • eyelidlessness 7y ago
      Option-clicking the green button (usually) maximizes. Full screen in a separate desktop space may resemble maximizing in some ways, but it significantly changes the interaction model when switching between windows, especially when some of the windows are not maximized. Example: 1. Open two apps, at least one of which supporting fullscreen. 2. Open three windows in the app that supports fullscreen. 3. Fullscreen one window. 4. Cmd-tab to the other app. 5. Cmd-tab back to the previous app. If your window from step 3 was maximized (filling the screen in the same desktop space), you would return to that window, but instead you are now looking at some completely random other window that you were not interacting with at all. For people who cmd-tab (and cmd-`) frequently to switch between apps, this is super jarring and not at all what we intended to do.
      • iphone_elegance 7y ago
        I just double tap the titlebar
        • eyelidlessness 7y ago
          With years of muscle memory, I reverted this change back to its original behavior (double tap minimizes the window to the Dock).
    • toast0 7y ago
      In my experience, the green button would make things maximum tall, but not maximum wide. I did not have any extensions. As opposed to everywhere else where maximize makes the selected window fill the full amount of windowed area. And I'm reminded by other posters that they changed it to full screening (which is also not maximizing), complete with a disorienting animation, ugh. Pretty happy being Mac free again.
      • pseudalopex 7y ago
        The old way was called "zoom" and would make the window fit the content.
        • int_19h 7y ago
          Yeah, but what does it really mean to "fit the content", if it doesn't fit the window at any size, but can reflow horizontally - as in e.g. most webpages? Mac apps seem to prefer increasing the vertical size until the window is as tall as it can be, but for horizontal, they usually stop before they reach full screen width - even if this would fit more content on the screen. It's supposed to be "smart", in a sense that it gives you the largest window size that it considers usable. But that's too subjective an assessment to enable it by default, and even more so to not make it configurable at all.
    • bigyikes 7y ago
      It typically fullscreens apps for me. I think you can hold down option and press the green button for maximization.
  • sjwright 7y ago
    Maximising windows stopped making sense to me after we hit 24 inch widescreen monitors. It’s just not something I ever do anymore.
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    • tomc1985 7y ago
      That's your preference. Most of my workday is spent writing code in maximized windows.
      • sjwright 7y ago
        Obviously. Everyone is different. Still, that's a common reaction from people who use Windows. I've used both Mac and Windows on a near-daily basis for the past ~30 years. Both have spent roughly equal amounts of time as my dominant platform. My observation is that maximising is such a default behaviour on Windows that most apps seem to be developed with that mode of operation in mind. Whereas Mac apps tend to be developed without that assumption. This in turn influences how people use apps on these respective platforms. I have a smaller vertical monitor next to my main monitor which I full-screen my code editor. It looked weird at first but nothing beats having oodles of vertical space, enough to convey entire blocks of code at a time. And even though it's a verticalised widescreen monitor and a comfortably large font, I still have enough width for almost 150 columns of monospaced text—plenty for my personal coding style. Full-screening code editors on a large horizontal widescreen monitor tends to have no tangible benefit other than to conceal clutter behind a bunch of useless whitespace.
        • frosted-flakes 7y ago
          Maximising a code editor allows you to have two editor panes side-by-side. Especially useful for Git diffs.
          • sjwright 6y ago
  • Synaesthesia 7y ago
    They really fixed that and in Catalina it works a lot like Windows 10, letting you tile apps side by side in full screen.