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To be fair, the Borg got beat by a unified, centralized and streamlined society.

aphextron 7y ago
>To be fair, the Borg got beat by a unified, centralized and streamlined society. Hardly. The Federation is, well, a federation. A loosely collectivized body of disparate groups, each with their own goals but united through a common cause. This was one of the central tenets of TNG; that diversity is strength.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
  I'd say that Starfleet is pretty unified though. Individual diversity was absolutely strength, but Starfleet was unified, and when it was divided that was major plot points.
  - saalweachter 7y ago
    Did Starfleet ever build two ships to the same design?
    - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
      Yup. Just thinking off the top of my head in TNG for the Galaxy Class alone there was the the USS Galaxy, USS Enterprise and USS Yamato. There were also a ton more visible during the Dominion War.
      - rpeden 7y ago
        As an example: https://youtu.be/CUQ2nmKNH3Y?t=79 https://youtu.be/CUQ2nmKNH3Y?t=79 Plenty of Galaxies, Excelsiors, and Mirandas (or maybe variants like Soyuz) flying around.
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Izkata 7y ago
I think GP was referring to Hugh, which was the idea of one person and not actually a virus (they decided against that plan before the end of the episode as well). But also there were various events during Voyager - at least twice the Borg were stopped by an infectious agent. Icheb's people for example were reduced to a bunch of farmers with genetic engineering skill, before they created their pathogen. Then in the finale, it was Admiral Janeway going rogue, not with the backing of any society.
etblg 7y ago
The borg were beaten by a show that was desperately running out of steam and enthusiasm, falling back to mediocre writing to wrap up plots and endings.
dehrmann 7y ago
The Borg were defeated by a rogue, time traveling captain who had no qualms with violating her unified society's rules to kill the Borg.

>To be fair, the Borg got beat by a unified, centralized and streamlined society. Hardly. The Federation is, well, a federation. A loosely collectivized body of disparate groups, each with their own goals but united through a common cause. This was one of the central tenets of TNG; that diversity is strength.

SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
I'd say that Starfleet is pretty unified though. Individual diversity was absolutely strength, but Starfleet was unified, and when it was divided that was major plot points.
- saalweachter 7y ago
  Did Starfleet ever build two ships to the same design?
  - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
    Yup. Just thinking off the top of my head in TNG for the Galaxy Class alone there was the the USS Galaxy, USS Enterprise and USS Yamato. There were also a ton more visible during the Dominion War.
    - rpeden 7y ago
      As an example: https://youtu.be/CUQ2nmKNH3Y?t=79 https://youtu.be/CUQ2nmKNH3Y?t=79 Plenty of Galaxies, Excelsiors, and Mirandas (or maybe variants like Soyuz) flying around.

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Izkata 7y ago

I think GP was referring to Hugh, which was the idea of one person and not actually a virus (they decided against that plan before the end of the episode as well). But also there were various events during Voyager - at least twice the Borg were stopped by an infectious agent. Icheb's people for example were reduced to a bunch of farmers with genetic engineering skill, before they created their pathogen. Then in the finale, it was Admiral Janeway going rogue, not with the backing of any society.

etblg 7y ago

The borg were beaten by a show that was desperately running out of steam and enthusiasm, falling back to mediocre writing to wrap up plots and endings.

dehrmann 7y ago

The Borg were defeated by a rogue, time traveling captain who had no qualms with violating her unified society's rules to kill the Borg.