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Many organizations do have private clouds. If by cloud you mean a public cloud like Google, Amazon, or Microsoft, then forget about it; not with these companie

Many organizations do have private clouds. If by cloud you mean a public cloud like Google, Amazon, or Microsoft, then forget about it; not with these companies piping data directly to U.S intelligence.

aspyct 7y ago
I meant public cloud indeed.
p1necone 7y ago
What's the difference between private cloud and on prem? Does it just mean you let everyone spin up VMs etc rather than requiring them to go through IT?
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  Mostly. Cloud is just bin packing compute and data storage. There are many use cases where it’s cheaper for you to host the hardware you cloud on instead of a public cloud provider.
- dathinab 7y ago
  A private cloud is potentially on prem. But besides that it's a about how the infrastructure is manages, in the classical way. Or with somethings which allows easy setup of new "containers" and similar like Kubernets. This doesn't necessarily means VMs. It can be more lightweight containers, e.g. based on Linux namespaces. Nor does it means you can sidestep the IT ;=) But normally it mans you can much easier spin up new services or change scaling between them.
- Jugurtha 7y ago
  > What's the difference between private cloud and on prem? Cloud and on-premises are not mutually exclusive, as many "bits I push to the cloud" get on-premises of a ponytailed guy named John. We focus on what people mean[^1], not what they say. Some even make a living saying "chemical-free"[^2] or "digital marketing" publicly. > Does it just mean you let everyone spin up VMs etc rather than requiring them to go through IT? This is the on-demand, self-service aspect. What the users get as a result of their demand depends on the need you're trying to fulfill and defines (SaaS, PaaS, IaaS, etc.). Do you want them to be able to interact with an application, deploy/run applications, or get a VM? Here's a resource that summarizes it[^3] and the Wikipedia page gives an overview[^4]. [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM [^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_free [^3]: https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/cloud-computing/iaas-vs-paas-vs-saas https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/cloud-computing/iaas-vs-paa... [^4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

aspyct 7y ago

I meant public cloud indeed.

p1necone 7y ago

What's the difference between private cloud and on prem? Does it just mean you let everyone spin up VMs etc rather than requiring them to go through IT?

toomuchtodo 7y ago
Mostly. Cloud is just bin packing compute and data storage. There are many use cases where it’s cheaper for you to host the hardware you cloud on instead of a public cloud provider.
dathinab 7y ago
A private cloud is potentially on prem. But besides that it's a about how the infrastructure is manages, in the classical way. Or with somethings which allows easy setup of new "containers" and similar like Kubernets. This doesn't necessarily means VMs. It can be more lightweight containers, e.g. based on Linux namespaces. Nor does it means you can sidestep the IT ;=) But normally it mans you can much easier spin up new services or change scaling between them.
Jugurtha 7y ago
> What's the difference between private cloud and on prem? Cloud and on-premises are not mutually exclusive, as many "bits I push to the cloud" get on-premises of a ponytailed guy named John. We focus on what people mean[^1], not what they say. Some even make a living saying "chemical-free"[^2] or "digital marketing" publicly. > Does it just mean you let everyone spin up VMs etc rather than requiring them to go through IT? This is the on-demand, self-service aspect. What the users get as a result of their demand depends on the need you're trying to fulfill and defines (SaaS, PaaS, IaaS, etc.). Do you want them to be able to interact with an application, deploy/run applications, or get a VM? Here's a resource that summarizes it[^3] and the Wikipedia page gives an overview[^4]. [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM [^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_free [^3]: https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/cloud-computing/iaas-vs-paas-vs-saas https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/cloud-computing/iaas-vs-paa... [^4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing