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This is one of the few responses I've seen that actually articulates a defense of deletionism rather than just a summary of deletionist theory, so let me engage
by andrewla 7y ago
This is one of the few responses I've seen that actually articulates a defense of deletionism rather than just a summary of deletionist theory, so let me engage here.
What exactly does policing for spam and vandalism consist of? There are a number of automated tools already deployed on wikipedia that get improved over time for detecting particular types of spam and vandalism. The use of anonymous accounts, in particular, make it hard to do any interesting spam at scale. It seems to me that the larger wikipedia is, paradoxically, the easier it will be to detect patterns of spam, especially out on the tail.
As for "No Original Research", that's probably the principle of wikipedia that I'm most skeptical of; and really, it isn't respected, as wikipedia has become such an important secondary source. I think it's useful as a guiding principle, in that you don't want people using wikipedia as a platform to advance their alternative theory of gravity, but for the most part the harm is small to allow us to push the envelope a little bit.
- tptacek 7y agoPolicing spam and vandalism entails reading all the changes to pages you're policing. That's why WP editors have watchlists, because no one person can keep context for all the pages on the site in their head. A lot of spam detection is automated, but a lot of spam isn't automated: it's people with a fairly decent understanding of a topic surreptitiously editing its page to give it a preferred spin (or promotion). The whole premise of Wikipedia is that not being allowed to stand. As regards "no OR isn't a problem": if your feeling is that the project is rife with OR, you should have no problem generating links to 5 pages that demonstrate the phenomenon. Let's discuss specifics.